Opinions about Child Rearing Determine How You Vote

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If they are genuinely-interested in the science, then...that would seem logical, yes.

I didn't miss the point of s**t, and I'm not insecure about anything either. I just figured you should know that plants are conscious too. So if you wanna be a real moral crusader, go eat rocks.

The point was about increasing knowledge about more predictive variables related to voting habits than the tired few we usually hear about.
Yet you still continue to embarrass yourself after having been reminded so.
After the little incident in L&D where you lost it, don't you think you should lay low for a few days?
Maybe contribute an actual opinion about the article?

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If the information isn't in the opinion piece, then perhaps the opinion piece is of dubious value?

I can do this all day .

Well I was asking your opinion, I figure you're partial to these positions.

I find these studies to be garbage btw. What of people who were once liberals and become conservatives or vice versa? What about become vegetarians later in life or become vegetarians for different reasons. Do these supposed 'neurological responses' follow their beliefs or does their beliefs follow their 'neurological responses'?

The thing that is of dubious value is your trolling.

Even if I was partial to them, it really wouldn't change the science.

The study I'm thinking of sampled only vegetarians who were such for ethical reasons, because the question was of what correlation, if any, might exist between empathetic response between vegetarians and meat-eaters. The Brain Functional Networks Associated to Human and Animal Suffering Differ among Omnivores, Vegetarians and Vegans

I think the others are fascinating questions. I've evolved so much over the years in what I believe, as have most people I know who follow politics or have an interest in ethics. No idea what the common elements might be from a neurological point of view.

If I HAD to say, the beliefs are set early on in life (much as religion is), and then when you surround yourself (either deliberately or no) with people/ideas which are similar, the synaptic connections are reinforced. Maybe people whose beliefs change are more often exposed to different ideas, and at an earlier age. The studies I've seen on the subject suggest differences between liberals and conservatives correspond with personality differences which emerge at an early age:
Personality: Differences Between Liberals and Conservatives

Here's another on how people (conservatives more than liberals) contort reality to suit their beliefs:
Moral Evaluation Shapes Factual Beliefs


Are you implying the studies are "garbage" because you're personally-interested in other variables which weren't the subject of study in those particular instances?

Isn't that kind of...dumb?

Also, what's with referring to the differences observed as "supposed"? Do you take issue with the reliability of fMRI's?



OP, I really didn't need to hijack the thread, but I think the defensiveness with which people react to studies of political beliefs, or ethics, etc, is kind of fascinating.

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What makes you think I'm embarrassed? How did I "lose it?" Because I told you to go make a sandwich? Because I pointed out how you just love jumping down men's throats for any little thing you don't agree with? Because I pointed out how you're quick to call every man you don't agree with a sexist, what?

Anyway, I already did contribute an opinion. The article is horse s**t.

I say it's important to question and be curious about everything, but I don't give two s**ts about obama or stupid ass romney. They're both just puppets, so neither one of them really matters. All this article is trying to do is polarize americans further.

Because that's how you imagine it. Seriously. You should cool it with flying off the handle in irrational rages, FYI.



By...plugging a book on the science of common features of democrat vs. republican voters?

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It is not of dubious value if you keep responding to it . Trolling is a art.

Anyhow, if you actually provided the results of a peer-reviewed statistical study in a respectable scientific journal which supported your claim, then perhaps I would stop trolling your thread. A link to a 250+ page long book is just lazy...

Irony.

Yeah, isn't it. Have a troll operate long enough and they end up trolling themselves.

We don't on the basis of class, gender, and race, we vote the way we do because of our values, the educated white, the wealthy one, and the one making less then 10 grand a year may value authority, but one can have many values, and there is a gradation of importance assigned to each of them that some may shine stronger then others.

I value life, but some things are more important then life, and worth giving up life for in fighting for it, such as liberty. I value authority not in the all encompassing, do anything you want dictator, and I also ask questions... as do many people who value authority do. Hierarchy is not the reason we value the elderly... we value them because we have the world we have today because of them and their sacrifices.

It all comes from the fact that the Left cannot understand why or how people can be conservative. You can try to color in the lens by which we view the world, but the only place that hierarchy matters is on the level of the political establishment, and that goes for both parties. For the common man, its our values that make us conservative, and the major uniting factor.

yea I don't know why leftists don't see the misuse of science to advance their political agenda as offensive, if a study came out about why any moron would vote for a Democrat I'd also think of it as abusive.

Because that is the implication... why do you the poor republican vote conservative when all these millionares are stealing your wealth, or why do you the educated republican vote conservative when your degree-holding *** should know better, or why do you, the republican in the scientific establishment draw conclusions that run counter to our agenda... whose payroll are you on? EIther we're mislead and corrupted by misinformation, stupid, or have bad intentions(greed, etc.), that is the typical conclusion because they can't fathom us voting the way we do for any other reason.

I was never trying to imply anything. I just think it's a piece of research that has a little bit of value and you know pointing out right wing authoritarianism isn't the same as claiming that left wing authoritarianism doesn't exist, right? It's also not the same thing as trying to make a conspiracy theory that you are all lying, deluded, bought off, etc.