The Religion of Peace.
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Of course, when a Christian nut job kills someone, it tends to be "unfortunate", but when a Muslim nut job kills someone.... whoooo boy.
It hasn't been the Christian nutjobs that have had the lions share of nutjob killings.
You've heard of the crusades, right?
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Of course, when a Christian nut job kills someone, it tends to be "unfortunate", but when a Muslim nut job kills someone.... whoooo boy.
Consider the relative frequency of nuttiness. Not a day goes by without a Muslim igniting himself or an IED.
ruveyn
Oh yeah, I forgot that the Taliban have an away team currently based in the UK and USA.
Those silly muslims. Getting into a hissy fit everytime a coalition force invades and bombs their countries.
Agree with you totally except for Islam not being a religion. It's very much a religion and as some other smart person said earlier in the thread its a Mish Mash of Old Testament History and Theology mingled with customs and culture of 7th Century Arabia. Little New Covenant got tossed in for good measure. The trouble all started with a couple of fellows called Isaac and Ishmael it will end in Jerusalem where the Lord will strike the miscreants dead with fire and brimstone. Despite what the liberals claim..Allah and The Creator, God the Father from the Bible are not the same entities. Allah is a bloodthirsty old Arabian fire god who got a big promotion somewhere about the time the religion was founded. If you want to do a word study on the character do a search for Bal in the Old Testament. That was the character which caused God to get so mad at the backslidden Jews when they sacrificed their children. If a person gets to know Bal they will have met Allah.

Understandable. Islam is not a religion. It is a vile wicked moral and mental disorder.
ruveyn
"And I brought you into the land of the Amorites, which dwelt on the other side Jordan; and they fought with you: and I gave them into your hand, that ye might possess their land; and I destroyed them from before you."
-Joshua 24:8
"For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be His own treasure out of all peoples that are upon the face of the earth."
-Deuteronomy 14:2
Those quotes are from the Old Testament. Christians and Jews believe the Old Testament is holy.
At least Muslim Arabs don't see themselves God's "chosen people". That's pretty racist ... and explains a lot.
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At least Muslim Arabs don't see themselves God's "chosen people". That's pretty racist ... and explains a lot.
Actually they do. They see the war between the dar al salaam (the house of islam) and the dar al harb (every one else) as their primary concern. It is their goal to convert the entire world to islam and slay those who will not go along with it.
For Jews, the Mission-from-G-D is the Tikkun Olam. To make the world a more just place to live.
By the way the primary book of Judiasm is not the Bible (TNKH). It is the Talmud which is a compendium of rabinnic opinion. The main line of Orhtodox Jewish thought is the Oral Tradition. Religious Jews see that their task is to convince most of humanity to follow the Noachide Laws, not to make them convert to Judaism.
The Amorites and the Amalekites were targets for destruction because they practiced child sacrifice.
ruveyn
This is clearly terrible, but I think saying this is because of the "religion of peace" is immensely naive.
What we have is a group of people, who instead of being re-integrated into their home countries after WWII, decided (often because of the terrible way they were treated after the war by Europeans, particularly the British) to join the Jewish communities in Palestine. The Palestinians didn't want this large group of immigrants there, and the Arab world declared war on the newly formed state of Israel in support of their allies.
Personally I think that this reaction was understandable, but totally disproportionate. I ask you: imagine China suddenly sent 5 million people to live in Belgium, they formed an army in anticipation of being attacked, and the Belgians didn't really want them there. Could you understand if the EU/NATO sent in troops to defend the Belgians, and maybe try and reclaim much of Belgium? What if this mass of people forced the Belgians to live in only parts of their country, or even migrate to the Netherlands or France- would you understand the EU still holding a grudge against this Chinese community? Let's say the EU was circulating propaganda calling for the violent deaths of the Chinese Belgians- would that mean atheists or Christians were violent, or brain damaged?
Now I'm of the opinion that Israel and Palestine (and by extension the Arab world) should have managed to sort out their differences over the past few generations. Both sides commit acts of aggression against each other. Is this because of Islam? No.
What we have is a group of people, who instead of being re-integrated into their home countries after WWII, decided (often because of the terrible way they were treated after the war by Europeans, particularly the British) to join the Jewish communities in Palestine. The Palestinians didn't want this large group of immigrants there, and the Arab world declared war on the newly formed state of Israel in support of their allies.
Personally I think that this reaction was understandable, but totally disproportionate. I ask you: imagine China suddenly sent 5 million people to live in Belgium, they formed an army in anticipation of being attacked, and the Belgians didn't really want them there. Could you understand if the EU/NATO sent in troops to defend the Belgians, and maybe try and reclaim much of Belgium? What if this mass of people forced the Belgians to live in only parts of their country, or even migrate to the Netherlands or France- would you understand the EU still holding a grudge against this Chinese community? Let's say the EU was circulating propaganda calling for the violent deaths of the Chinese Belgians- would that mean atheists or Christians were violent, or brain damaged?
Now I'm of the opinion that Israel and Palestine (and by extension the Arab world) should have managed to sort out their differences over the past few generations. Both sides commit acts of aggression against each other. Is this because of Islam? No.
Dang yall talk about some interesting stuff on here..lol. I have heard some Bible Believing Christians claim that the time for Jews to come back to Israel was premature when the Country was established back in 47 or 48. Supposedly they should walk in and occupy their inheritance unopposed. Is that what your saying maybe? Perhaps the Christians wanted prophecy fulfilled a little too bad? Does have a grain of truth to it..but I swing the other way. They are God's Chosen People and if the 7 Day War didnt make a believer out of a person nothing will The mean old Revelation believing folks I hang with believe before end time events progress much farther..all the Jews in the world are going to have to head back to Israel..meaning something gonna make them leave from some where else. Europe tends to be so highly anti Semitic can sure see them wanting to get out of there. Guess the liberals will run them off from over here. Whatcha think?
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Understandable. Islam is not a religion. It is a vile wicked moral and mental disorder.
ruveyn
One can say the same of the other Abrahamic religions as well, if the people who claimed to be faithful actually cared half a lick about their holy books told them to do.
The greatest unarmed warriors for peace and pacifism often have a jewish heritage. Who do you think pioneered humanism? The people of the book have making the world a better place scripted into their DNA. From Irving Kristol to Marx to Moses and Jesus, to make the world better is our impulse regardless of if we actually make it worse or which side of the political spectrum they occupy. With or without the Book of God's words...
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This is where the "chosen people" mentality gets you.
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So if there is a "Religion of Peace" or a "Nation of Secure Citizens", then I wonder if those people have ever heard of this:
There is nothing more secure that the security of a slave.
-- I have no idea who said this first, only that I remember it from the third grade (1966).
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ruveyn
LOL It's a video comparing Palestinians to Nazis.
I find it odd how Israelis compare Palestinians to Nazis when the Israelis are the ones that conquered Palestine by force. I would accuse them of psychological projection but I don't believe in Freudian psychology so I will just call them hypocrites.
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ruveyn
LOL It's a video comparing Palestinians to Nazis.
I find it odd how Israelis compare Palestinians to Nazis when the Israelis are the ones that conquered Palestine by force. I would accuse them of psychological projection but I don't believe in Freudian psychology so I will just call them hypocrites.
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (translated into Arabic) is a best seller in Jordan and Syria.
ruveyn
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ruveyn
LOL It's a video comparing Palestinians to Nazis.
I find it odd how Israelis compare Palestinians to Nazis when the Israelis are the ones that conquered Palestine by force. I would accuse them of psychological projection but I don't believe in Freudian psychology so I will just call them hypocrites.
No one conquered Palestine by force. Palestine does not exist.
Oh, and the Nazi comparison is completely valid.
Behold, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1943.
.. Yes, those people *are* SS soldiers.
Dittos. Most "Palestinians" are ethnic Jordanians who moved to Israel when the Jews started moving back in large numbers after the Nation of Israel was created. They came to work for the Jews as laborers..domestic help etc. The land in question..other than that captured in the 1967 War..was bought and paid for from absentee Arab landowners. Now some of the Jews never left so that is their land also. Liberals tell a bunch of lies about the Palestinians. Israel is not and never has been their indigenous homeland. Look up Phillistines in the Bible. Those are Palestinians.
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ruveyn
LOL It's a video comparing Palestinians to Nazis.
I find it odd how Israelis compare Palestinians to Nazis when the Israelis are the ones that conquered Palestine by force. I would accuse them of psychological projection but I don't believe in Freudian psychology so I will just call them hypocrites.
No one conquered Palestine by force. Palestine does not exist.
Oh, and the Nazi comparison is completely valid.
Behold, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in 1943.
.. Yes, those people *are* SS soldiers.
