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18 Dec 2012, 12:35 pm

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Edit: I'll retract that snippy comment because of your graciousness.

Instead, I'll point out that southern politics in the post-war period was dominated by Democrats of the same party that fought to defend slavery. Gun ranges in those regions were no doubt unaffected.

Though the inability of blacks to legally own firearms in those states probably made range rules a non-issue.


Actually, McPherson's book Trial By Fire (which we had used as our text book in the Civil War And Reconstruction class I had taken in college) covers how southern gun clubs had resisted reconstruction and emancipation.



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18 Dec 2012, 2:13 pm

They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


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18 Dec 2012, 6:00 pm

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They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


People who are still emotionally unstable? What are they afraid of - that people who don't believe in using guns are suddenly going to shoot up the NRA HQ?

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18 Dec 2012, 6:01 pm

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... rders.html

NRA makes statement about Newtown massacre

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The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.


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18 Dec 2012, 6:13 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


People who are still emotionally unstable? What are they afraid of - that people who don't believe in using guns are suddenly going to shoot up the NRA HQ?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It's been threatened. By Democratic party leaders no less.
http://www.examiner.com/article/democra ... ath-threat

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"Can we now shoot the #NRA and everyone who defends them?" he tweeted after the Connecticut school shootings.



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18 Dec 2012, 6:26 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


People who are still emotionally unstable? What are they afraid of - that people who don't believe in using guns are suddenly going to shoot up the NRA HQ?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

People who are too worked up to think clearly, possibly an "amygdala hijack"; not criminally insane.


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18 Dec 2012, 6:50 pm

1000Knives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


People who are still emotionally unstable? What are they afraid of - that people who don't believe in using guns are suddenly going to shoot up the NRA HQ?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It's been threatened. By Democratic party leaders no less.
http://www.examiner.com/article/democra ... ath-threat

Quote:
"Can we now shoot the #NRA and everyone who defends them?" he tweeted after the Connecticut school shootings.


While the idiot who tweeted that should have his cell phone taken from him so he can never tweet again, I doubt he was serious.

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18 Dec 2012, 6:52 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
They're clearly waiting for the emotional reaction to die down; they're going to be arguing reason here, and that doesn't go down well with people who are still emotionally unstable. I'm sure they're activating their political networks and preparing to fight any introduced bills, they're just not talking about it yet.


People who are still emotionally unstable? What are they afraid of - that people who don't believe in using guns are suddenly going to shoot up the NRA HQ?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


It's been threatened. By Democratic party leaders no less.
http://www.examiner.com/article/democra ... ath-threat

Quote:
"Can we now shoot the #NRA and everyone who defends them?" he tweeted after the Connecticut school shootings.


While the idiot who tweeted that should have his cell phone taken from him so he can never tweet again, I doubt he was serious.

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I say arrest him for the felony he committed.

But he's a rich politician, he would probably buy his way out of it.


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18 Dec 2012, 9:14 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/541341-nra-statement-on-newtown-murders.html

NRA makes statement about Newtown massacre

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The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.


Aw. How sweet.



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18 Dec 2012, 10:19 pm

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They very well may be afraid if they started spouting gun rights jargon after the Connecticut school shooting, they might literally be lynched in the streets.

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Not surprising, the original gun control advocates were the KKK.

Be fun to see them try it again, though. I've got my mags loaded.

Realistically, I agree with Oodain; the NRA is demonstrating significantly more class than anti-rights groups and individuals.


You got that right. Some anti-gun individuals are even calling for the killing of gun owners :roll:


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18 Dec 2012, 10:56 pm

I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.


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19 Dec 2012, 12:03 am

The NRA is hosting a news conference this Friday. I'm waiting to pass judgement on them until after the conference. I strongly suspect that they will be proactive and embrace some forms of gun control. I think they see writing on the wall.



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19 Dec 2012, 12:10 am

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The NRA is hosting a news conference this Friday. I'm waiting to pass judgement on them until after the conference. I strongly suspect that they will be proactive and embrace some forms of gun control. I think they see writing on the wall.


They did not support the 1994 Crime Bill, so I doubt they will support anything similar.


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19 Dec 2012, 12:13 am

PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


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19 Dec 2012, 12:19 am

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PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


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19 Dec 2012, 1:09 am

lotuspuppy wrote:
The NRA is hosting a news conference this Friday. I'm waiting to pass judgement on them until after the conference. I strongly suspect that they will be proactive and embrace some forms of gun control. I think they see writing on the wall.


Only will strengthen the GOA as the only no compromise gun organization in America