Do you believe in God and supernatural beings?

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27 Feb 2013, 11:51 am

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No.

Apparently autistics are more often atheist/agnostic:

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2011/papers/0782/paper0782.pdf


That's because we are logical and like concrete examples of things. This doesn't mean that you can't be open-minded to things though, and when you have experienced unexplainable things you become more open-minded.

It'd be funny if we all turned out to be indigo children: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Indigo_child


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27 Feb 2013, 1:08 pm

whirlingmind wrote:
Ettina wrote:
No.

Apparently autistics are more often atheist/agnostic:

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2011/papers/0782/paper0782.pdf


That's because we are logical and like concrete examples of things. This doesn't mean that you can't be open-minded to things though, and when you have experienced unexplainable things you become more open-minded.

It'd be funny if we all turned out to be indigo children: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Indigo_child


Maybe the area of the brain in charge of spiritual experiences is damaged because it's closely related to the social part of the brain.

That's what I tell my religious parents anyway. I said God has to heal my autism if I'm ever going to be religious, so if that's what you really want, pray extra hard.

So far, it hasn't worked. I'm just as autistic when they pray as when they don't. lol



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27 Feb 2013, 1:15 pm

whirlingmind wrote:
Ettina wrote:
No.

Apparently autistics are more often atheist/agnostic:

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2011/papers/0782/paper0782.pdf


That's because we are logical and like concrete examples of things. This doesn't mean that you can't be open-minded to things though, and when you have experienced unexplainable things you become more open-minded.

It'd be funny if we all turned out to be indigo children: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Indigo_child


Meh I think it's far more likely cultural. Christianity is a religion that has established itself as very much opposed to science and reason.

I'm sure if we were a muslin country, buddist etc, it wouldn't be so automatic.


I'm not automatically religious, but I have a great deal of respect for churches, especially ones that give homes to people like us. As I don't know about where you live, but here in canada, most churches are filled with people with either OCD, or Aspergers, not that there big fans of being labelled.

The religion phobia in the west is turning into exactly what we supposedly detest about organized religion.

It's a phobia built on the premises that all religious folks are fundamentalist, which is usually only typical of idiots and children.



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27 Feb 2013, 1:16 pm

For me it has to be seen or proven to exist. I had tried on many occasions to really believe in a supernatural being that is responsible for all that is, but my mind shoots it down every time. If I had to relate to a "god" that is responsible, I would pick naming all that exists, ie. atoms, molecules, energy, as the God.

Interestingly, it seems that females have an easier time believing in religion and supernatural existence than men though. Could this be because their brains are wired differently then men's to start out with?


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27 Feb 2013, 1:51 pm

Ettina wrote:
No.

Apparently autistics are more often atheist/agnostic:

http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2011/papers/0782/paper0782.pdf

Interesting... thanks


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27 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Atheist here.



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27 Feb 2013, 2:47 pm

I am devout, not a fanatic because I do not attempt to convert anyone, but deeply religious.

My type autism prevents believing in magic of any kind so all the commercial religions with magic as their basic tenet are out.

And just like the NTs, I cherry pick what parts to follow of my religion.
Satisfying the gene's covering what we call religion merely requires consciously helping others. Churches based on magic organise this urge, but magic is not required by genetics, this was added by overthinking why we live and underthinking how we live.

I have an overwhelming urge to help others, if a supernatural god is involved then I am that god. My world began with me and will end with me, pretty godlike "I am the beginning and the end".

I will end with a comment from a Baptist believer I worked with, he believed in God with all his might so I am assuming his quote is meant sincerely.

"God is a nice guy and I know He loves me, but He is not going to give me a new knee."

He then went in for knee surgery to replace his kneecap. All went well. His particular belief in God did not include physical magic, so a lot of this discussion is what I or You believe the requirements are to be labelled "God".


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27 Feb 2013, 4:26 pm

God as caretaker/father figure/dispenser of random justice according to some daft plan/etc = No.

I think that if there is a powerful being who is responsible for the universe's creation, I don't think that such a creature would take any interest whatsoever in the petty social squabbles of various species it has created.

Supernatural beings... I don't think so. There is no evidence for anything like that that we have found so far, testable and repeatable.



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27 Feb 2013, 4:37 pm

Yes. I am a Christian.



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27 Feb 2013, 5:35 pm

It's hard for me not to believe in supernatural beings even though I know my belief is irrational. It's just instinctive. You could argue that's because it was ingrained in me but I don't really believe in God or the walking on water miracle so that's debatable. I'm just a bit of a magical thinker by nature. Supernatural concepts are often on my mind. I try not to let it govern my thoughts completely. I maintain forced rationality which takes a lot of effort because my emotional inner voice keeps screaming supernatural concepts.

I've got two trains of thought going on at all time. One takes the supernatural route and is very irrational. The other is hyper-rational. I usually end up with opinions that contradict each other as a result. I believe in supernatural beings but I don't believe in supernatural beings.



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27 Feb 2013, 5:56 pm

no, not one bit



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27 Feb 2013, 6:02 pm

I am agnostic and believe that believing absolutly either way is being narrow minded as you are not looking at different possiblities, so people that say believing in god is narrow minded because there is no such thing are being narrow minded themselves, this can go both ways however.

if there is no facts to back up either theory of god or no god or afterlife or no afterlife then the arguement makes no sense.



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27 Feb 2013, 6:04 pm

franknfurter wrote:
I am agnostic and believe that believing absolutly either way is being narrow minded as you are not looking at different possiblities, so people that say believing in god is narrow minded because there is no such thing are being narrow minded themselves, this can go both ways however.

if there is no facts to back up either theory of god or no god or afterlife or no afterlife then the arguement makes no sense.


when i say this i dont find anything wrong with believing in god or not believing in god but to discount any theory entirely is wrong.



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27 Feb 2013, 6:19 pm

Very devout Athiest here. Religion has been used to control, oppress and comfort people. I'll take the cold truth. I don't need the b.s.



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27 Feb 2013, 6:21 pm

Yep, believe in God, angels, spirits, demons, souls.



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27 Feb 2013, 8:16 pm

Oberoth wrote:
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Nope!
I'll just borrow this, if you dont mind.
This would work too [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14[/youtube]


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