Anybody here have been through a 'racist' phase?

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I've heard conservatives use the word "racism" plenty of times. It's not just liberals who recognize that racial discrimination is wrong.
And to say that those accused of racism only criticize crime and social problems of another culture is incorrect. Racists hate people of another race, seeing their alleged social troubles as inherit, or a moral failing applying to everyone of that race.
And while racism is doubtlessly going to be with us forever doesn't mean that we still can't fight it with tolerance.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I was lucky to be brought up in a racially tolerant household, and at my school you'd be picked on for behaviour, not skin or culture differences.

When my son started school, one of his favourite friends was a chubby chinese kid.
One day, he said - "Mum, he is different to the other kids"
I was about to begin the Speech of Tolerance, then he announced - "He's fat. But his parents own a restaurant so he eats a lot."
So I had to do the Speech of Health & Fitness instead.
Great moment. The kids simply did not see racial differences.

Nowadays I am of the view that everyone is racist to an extent whether they like it or not, and it's critical to suppress that and let people feel welcome.

Yes conservatives have been know to talk about racism from time to time but liberals talk about it constantly even if race has nothing to do with what is being discussed they seem to find a way bring it up.

I would say most people accused of racism don't have a problem with race they have a problem with culture people see color first and then see culture and it is the culture that they hate not the race. Trying to make people into racists for pointing out that certain cultures have serious problems living in society without destroying it is just wrong it doesn't help anybody it helps agendas though.

Tolerance of other cultures and things that they do that don't hurt society is one thing we all need to be better at. But letting a culture destroy everything it touches just because you don't want to be called a racist is one of the dumbest thing I can think of.

And dare I ask which destructive culture you're talking about?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I used the N-word in a poem about another classmate in elementary school because it was a new word to me and I just had to use it somewhere. I learned a new word now I need to use it.

I didn't really go through a typical racist phase. I went through what sounds like a CRT phase even though I never heard the term. I considered myself to be a white devil and I hated myself for being white. I thought the world hated white people and so I hated myself instead of fighting. I looked at and still look at non-whites with envy but I know now that it is irrational and silly. I actually feel pathetic with the envy that still lingers because I hear of many people envying whites.

I used to hate myself and other white people. It was more than just white guilt. It was full-blown hatred, frustration, and powerlessness. Powerlessness because I couldn't change my race no matter how much I wanted to. My idea at one point was that I was going to spare my children of what I thought was a bad thing. I'd marry someone who wasn't white just so that my children would have some other heritage to cling to. They wouldn't have to be "just white" like me.

It's hard to override these feelings. I know now that they are completely messed up and I don't believe them consciously but I still see them in my reactions to things and in my motives.

There was a 15 black belt Ninja whom once said that being able to kill makes you more able for compassion. And you do because you see into the eventual consequences and create distance. Racism can be useful. There was another thread talking about that some psychopaths could be good. LIkewise some racists are good.

I dont know too a deep extent how to talk about what is beauty. But i find that black people ... are ugly. There are white people whom are ugly too of course. I think black people should accept this - death is a reality - like white people and not say "no" to racism because that isolates them from the rest of us and that creates problems.

I believe there is alot of pre-beauty that could be improved and we should not be satisfied with only internal beauty. I cant for example live with an ugly woman although she is a goddess when it comes to moral.

This is a topic that isnt really allowed by the rules of this website.

While we encourage you to have all sorts of discussions please be careful when it comes to expressing your opinions on this touchy topic

The tread-title does not imply this is about radical ideology, 'racist' or otherwise. And therefore is a little misleading.



So this treads main purpose is to serve as some kind of public confession of what you consider past errors/sins?



To what extend?



Which is a racist statement itself.



Actually the original solution was not genocide. There where two different camps in the NSDAP, one is the more well know one. The other was more in favor of Jews moving somewhere else. This included among thing the Haavara agreement, which arranged for the emigration of German Jews to the British mandate area of Palestine. Something that could not be continued after the outbreak of WOII.



The irony is that some/most of those would be identified as white. However for most of them it is a power tool. In the sense that society and lawmakers should listen to them on how to combat racism and of course they should be given more money and ultimately authority. In the end of course CRT might turn against them.

That would be cultures not culture see when it comes to the reality of culture the answer is never as simple as black white brown yellow which is why I hate the term racism when it is being used.

Dare I ask you what culture or cultures you think are destructive or do you refuse to see or acknowledge such things out of fear.

To Mod: Which is why I started with the opinion of a trained martial artist of high rank.

The cultures that are most destructive in my opinion are -

The Neo-Confederate movement. Found mostly - but not exclusively - in the American south, which thrives on racial and regional resentment, and tries revising history in order to make out the Confederate cause as spotlessly moral, all about states rights and no connection to slavery and racism. This is pure bunk. This subculture is not shared by all southern whites by any means.
The Randian/far right libertarian movement. This is seen as the way of the future by many on the political right, where selfishness is seen as a virtue, and the good of society is rejected for the aggrandizement of the individual. Anyone needing help is regarded as a parasite not worthy of life, while those who attain worldly success are nearly worshiped as demigods. This subculture has embraced racism and anti-labor notions, and have come to hold not just the poor, but also ordinary citizens in hatred and contempt. It should be pointed out that not everyone on the right or libertarians is part of this subculture.
The populist right. This movement is supposed to represent the values of ordinary Americans, but has gone overboard embracing anti-intellectualism, the unquestioning literalism of Christian fundamentalism, and a simplistic worldview of economics and politics. Liberalism and moderation are seen as dirty words. The tea party is ripe with this way of thinking, and has embraced both Neo-Confederate and Randian (which is odd, considering that they're supposed to represent the interests of the common man) viewpoints. Regardless of the notion that they represent the populace, racism and hatred of the needy are very much common.
It can be argued these are political and social philosophies, but they have grown to such an extent that they can now be considered subcultures of the United States. They are very much growing in political and social persuasion, and have already demonstrated that their influence is negative.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So you are a neoliberal that doesn't surprise me one bit so these cultures more than any other the world over cause the most destruction to society the world over in your eyes wow way to ignore real problems. I wouldn't call those cultures either I would call that ideology just like the world over liberal ideology is hated and thought of as destructive though you would never acknowledge that. You totally ignored my question but if I was to have to think and label things the way you do then I would say you are racist against white people. Which is accepted as being very healthy and productive if you are a liberal that is just one small reason the rest of the world hates the ideology of liberals.

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I don't know about neo-liberal - - but I certainly am a liberal.
And worldwide? No, I was talking about America in general. Worldwide, the most harmful culture currently is Islamic fundamentalism in the Middle East, and expanding into Europe, which is anti-liberal, culturally backward, xenophobic, and violent. Our current conflict with Islamists may in later times be regarded as an undeclared third world war.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Well at least we agree on one thing

I'm sure we'd probably agree on a lot of stuff if we wre ever to meet.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer