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05 Nov 2013, 9:35 pm

I did not have a huge problem with it until I travelled through the developing world where people smoke indoors and constantly. Then it became a real nuisance.


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06 Nov 2013, 3:59 am

I dont mind people smoking, as long as they do it for themselves. Because of public health system, where I live, I think they should be paying more health insurance, but as long as they are not spitting around, dont force me to smoke with them, and dont expect me to pay for their additional medical costs, I am fine with it.



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06 Nov 2013, 4:04 am

I kinda like it when people have an obvious bad habit. It's a nice reminder that I'm not the only one who gets stuck in self-destructive behaviours. It's the people who seem "perfect" that get on my nerves.

Plus, second-hand smoke doesn't bother me. It's probably because I take anti-asthma medication every day.



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06 Nov 2013, 4:31 am

What's not to like about them? They are just normal people who like to smoke.

If you have a problem with a smoker, usually you can just tell them to take it outdoors or whatever. Most smokers aren't completely inconsiderate. They might not realize that they are causing other people discomfort though unless you say something. But once you do, they will generally be considerate. If not, then they are probably a**holes, but smokers just like to smoke, they aren't bad people or anything.



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06 Nov 2013, 5:14 am

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i think that they smoke.



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06 Nov 2013, 8:09 am

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06 Nov 2013, 8:17 am

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i think that they smoke.


You KNOW that they smoke because they are smokers 8)



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07 Nov 2013, 2:55 am

My mother-in-law died from lung cancer before our daughter was conceived, and now my father-in-law is going to die very soon from prostate cancer. Both had smoked like smoke stacks, a habit that did nothing for either but to continuously be low on cash, and to die horrendously. If anything, I feel sorry for smokers having such a terrible addiction that will take them away from their loved ones way too soon.


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07 Nov 2013, 5:18 am

Relevant topic :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf212429-0-30.html

Generally speaking they strike me as stupid, selfish, stinky, unattractive, hostile, antisocial extreme addicts with barely any willpower - who don't care about their own health, or the health of those around them. They often strike me as people who have far more money than sense, a limited ability to behave like adults and behave reasonably, and they are a constant drain of NHS resources which could be used to help people who deserve it more.

They frequently seem a bit chavvy, when you see them lurking about puffing away on fags in public.... and many of them do this right next to no smoking signs (especially outside hospitals, where they will sit there looking like they're about to die of Cancer while puffing away on fags in no smoking areas like moronic selfish arses) ... it can be impossible to get a bit of oxygen after having a process done at a hospital because there's no air conditioning or air-flow inside... and as soon as you get outside there are a million smokers puffing away.

They also seem like people who don't deal with life issues (such as stress) in a relevant and pro-active way... choosing instead to take addictive drugs frequently (in the form of fags) ; thus increasing their overall stress by choosing to perpetuate an addiction which increases noradrenaline levels. Then they talk crap about how smoking allegedly calms them down.... which is like saying that heroine is relaxing, since taking it calms the addict frenzy which junkies feel if they don't take it for a while.

Generally, they seem to not care about their own health... and not care about making the people around them ill, either.

They frequently don't care about polluting the environment either.... littering all sorts of places with their mangy fag butts and stinking up the air around them.

They also sometimes lie like politicians... claiming that they've given up smoking, when actually they have done nothing of the sort.


Kraichgauer wrote:
If anything, I feel sorry for smokers having such a terrible addiction that will take them away from their loved ones way too soon.


Well, I reckon that it's the loved ones who suffer the longest because of them doing that.
Sure, Cancer is a horrible way to die.... but once they're dead, they're gone.
It's their friends and family who are left behind with a void where the smoker used to be.

... and it's especially lame if their friends/family have been trying to get them to stop smoking for ages, and being told stuff like "shut up. Smoking is doing me no harm. I won't die of Cancer. I'd know if I had Cancer. I don't care if me smoking is making you ill. " (which relates to smokers being delusional about the effects of their decision, selfish, and also a bit stupid) ... which was what happened to me, when my dad smoked himself to death from Cancer.

Everybody who smokes has made a conscious decision to start.
And, it's not exactly top secret hidden knowledge that smoking fags becomes addictive when people keep on choosing to do it for a while.
:shrug: There's really no sensible reason to start.... so it seems like a very telling thing when people make that decision.

I think more tax should be added to fag costs / tobacco etc.... because there's no good reason why anybody else should be forced to subsidise smokers' medical costs through generalised taxation. They should also automatically go to the bottom of the list when waiting for lung transplants and the like, so that people who deserve it more (due to not making the decision to ruin their lungs in the first place, and being unlikely to do so with the new set as son as the operation is over) are treated first. Because let's face it.... generally speaking, smokers are incredibly likely to get started on wrecking the new set of lungs as soon as possible.... sometimes before they've even finished their hospital stay !

Of course, there are exceptions to what I've been saying. If people smoke on their own (not affecting their kids, etc) in their house or some other smoker's house, then change their clothes - and don't just walk about with hair/clothes/breath smelling like an old ashtray which has never been emptied, then that's a lot more reasonable and less disgusting than the majority of smokers seem to be. Similarly, if people live in areas with only private healthcare or else don't smoke like a factory reekhouse until they need an operation, and don't cough and splutter all over other people constantly, then that's more considerate towards others than the kind of smokers who thoughtlessly guzzle up NHS resources in order to mop up the damage caused by their chosen heavy addiction... and who just cough and spit up phlegm wherever they go.



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07 Nov 2013, 5:31 am

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pawelk1986 wrote:
What do you think of smokers?

If I were to post what I think of smokers, it would get me permanently banned from WP.


:lol: haha !

Such food for the imagination...

You know, you get some a***holes who stand down dark alleyways skulking about smoking, then throw their lit nearly done fag ends at random passersby in the street ?
I threatened to kick the one who did that to me, and ranted at her for being a stupid selfish a***hole smoker and doing something so obnoxious which nearly burned me.... and only didn't because of my fast reaction to the incoming burning missile. (thankyou computer games ! !! !) LOL, that was about 15 years ago.
She was quite startled, and ran away. :roll: But seriously, what kind of douchebag does that ?
I assume it was because of the mindlessly automatic "I ping my fag butt away casually when I'm done without engaging my brain at all" thing which so many smokers seem to think is fine... and she'd stupidly failed to take into account the fact that she was pinging a small fire at actual people who might have something to say about it, and give her a roasting for being so antisocial and chavvy.

It should really be the law that fag addicts can only smoke e-fags in public, as then (1) they would have no chance to litter the place with fag butts (2) It wouldn't stink out other people and make them ill and/or irritated, (3) they would have no opportunity to hurl burning fags at people for no good reason. (4) My understanding is that e-fags primarily work through a vapourising process, which would result in much less coughing spluttering out phlegm, and general NHS resource guzzling, with less people dying because they can't get a lung transplant.

It's a telling thing that the vast majority of smokers are too selfish and bummy to even compromise by using e-fags in public, if they absolutely must go about being public addicts.


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07 Nov 2013, 5:42 am

Don't cigarette taxes already make more money than is spent on smoking-related diseases?



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07 Nov 2013, 5:43 am

I doubt it, but are there any statistics on that ?



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07 Nov 2013, 5:58 am

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
Relevant topic :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf212429-0-30.html

Generally speaking they strike me as stupid, selfish, stinky, unattractive, hostile, antisocial extreme addicts with barely any willpower - who don't care about their own health, or the health of those around them. They often strike me as people who have far more money than sense, a limited ability to behave like adults and behave reasonably, and they are a constant drain of NHS resources which could be used to help people who deserve it more.

They frequently seem a bit chavvy, when you see them lurking about puffing away on fags in public.... and many of them do this right next to no smoking signs (especially outside hospitals, where they will sit there looking like they're about to die of Cancer while puffing away on fags in no smoking areas like moronic selfish arses) ... it can be impossible to get a bit of oxygen after having a process done at a hospital because there's no air conditioning or air-flow inside... and as soon as you get outside there are a million smokers puffing away.

They also seem like people who don't deal with life issues (such as stress) in a relevant and pro-active way... choosing instead to take addictive drugs frequently (in the form of fags) ; thus increasing their overall stress by choosing to perpetuate an addiction which increases noradrenaline levels. Then they talk crap about how smoking allegedly calms them down.... which is like saying that heroine is relaxing, since taking it calms the addict frenzy which junkies feel if they don't take it for a while.

Generally, they seem to not care about their own health... and not care about making the people around them ill, either.

They frequently don't care about polluting the environment either.... littering all sorts of places with their mangy fag butts and stinking up the air around them.

They also sometimes lie like politicians... claiming that they've given up smoking, when actually they have done nothing of the sort.


Kraichgauer wrote:
If anything, I feel sorry for smokers having such a terrible addiction that will take them away from their loved ones way too soon.


Well, I reckon that it's the loved ones who suffer the longest because of them doing that.
Sure, Cancer is a horrible way to die.... but once they're dead, they're gone.
It's their friends and family who are left behind with a void where the smoker used to be.

... and it's especially lame if their friends/family have been trying to get them to stop smoking for ages, and being told stuff like "shut up. Smoking is doing me no harm. I won't die of Cancer. I'd know if I had Cancer. I don't care if me smoking is making you ill. " (which relates to smokers being delusional about the effects of their decision, selfish, and also a bit stupid) ... which was what happened to me, when my dad smoked himself to death from Cancer.

Everybody who smokes has made a conscious decision to start.
And, it's not exactly top secret hidden knowledge that smoking fags becomes addictive when people keep on choosing to do it for a while.
:shrug: There's really no sensible reason to start.... so it seems like a very telling thing when people make that decision.

I think more tax should be added to fag costs / tobacco etc.... because there's no good reason why anybody else should be forced to subsidise smokers' medical costs through generalised taxation. They should also automatically go to the bottom of the list when waiting for lung transplants and the like, so that people who deserve it more (due to not making the decision to ruin their lungs in the first place, and being unlikely to do so with the new set as son as the operation is over) are treated first. Because let's face it.... generally speaking, smokers are incredibly likely to get started on wrecking the new set of lungs as soon as possible.... sometimes before they've even finished their hospital stay !

Of course, there are exceptions to what I've been saying. If people smoke on their own (not affecting their kids, etc) in their house or some other smoker's house, then change their clothes - and don't just walk about with hair/clothes/breath smelling like an old ashtray which has never been emptied, then that's a lot more reasonable and less disgusting than the majority of smokers seem to be. Similarly, if people live in areas with only private healthcare or else don't smoke like a factory reekhouse until they need an operation, and don't cough and splutter all over other people constantly, then that's more considerate towards others than the kind of smokers who thoughtlessly guzzle up NHS resources in order to mop up the damage caused by their chosen heavy addiction... and who just cough and spit up phlegm wherever they go.


Everything you have said here is completely void of compassion.

It's people like you that make smokers want to shove it in other people's faces.

My grandmother was a smoker and had a stroke because of it. Did I think she was disgusting or immoral or inconsiderate because she smoked? No. Seriously, think about what you are saying. It is extremely offensive. Hopefully some way down the line you will realize this.



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07 Nov 2013, 6:09 am

They're vile, disgusting creatures too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions. They should be euthanized for the good of humanity.

*sticks ground tobacco up his nose*

Ladywoofwoof wrote:
It's a telling thing that the vast majority of smokers are too selfish and bummy to even compromise by using e-fags in public, if they absolutely must go about being public addicts.

"E-fags" are far from a direct replacement for cigarettes. You can't even get rats to reliably self-administer nicotine without an MAOI.



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07 Nov 2013, 6:29 am

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Everything you have said here is completely void of compassion.

It's people like you that make smokers want to shove it in other people's faces.

My grandmother was a smoker and had a stroke because of it. Did I think she was disgusting or immoral or inconsiderate because she smoked? No. Seriously, think about what you are saying. It is extremely offensive. Hopefully some way down the line you will realize this.



No, it's them being inconsiderate selfish a***holes which makes smokers want to 'shove it in other peoples' faces' ....
Smokers who behave like that are devoid of compassion for those who would prefer to breathe air, rather than their stinky fag smoke.
Perhaps some way down the line you will realise this, and properly consider what you're saying.

Compassion is :
dictionary wrote:
sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.


I pity smokers for being being the kind of person to take the notion to start having such an idiotic, money-draining and selfish addiction in the first place, and think it's unfortunate that they're so stupid and frequently inconsiderate.
:-) How about that ?

JitakuKeibiinB wrote:
"E-fags" are far from a direct replacement for cigarettes.


Fags are no kind of a replacement for air.... you know, the stuff which humans require in order to be healthy and stay alive ?
Plenty of people use e-fags and think they're fine.
I'm not sure what rats have to do with anything.... I mean, you never see rats voluntarily take up smoking in the first place.
They're smart creatures, rats....



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07 Nov 2013, 6:45 am

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They're vile, disgusting creatures too stupid to understand the consequences of their actions. They should be euthanized for the good of humanity.


Dang, that's a fairly extreme view.
But hey, everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
:-D


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*sticks ground tobacco up his nose*


That's fair enough.... it might not be good for your health, but that's no big deal from my perspective since it's your decision to make.... it doesn't bother anybody else if you stick snuff up your nose, and it won't pollute the environment or air.... and it's unlikely that you'd need medical intervention.... or that you'll use so much snuff that you die prematurely from it (thus upsetting your loved ones).
:thumleft:

If society considers any other form of heavy addict (ie heroin, crack, meth or alcohol addicts) , then the prevalent attitude is that general society ought to encourage those addicts to find alternative methods of being .... rather than letting them be as much of an addict as they like in public, and expecting people to all be supportive of the addict's decision to be addicted to their substance of choice, rather than making every effort to stop. So why on earth should being a fag addict be any different ?

:shrug:

I've just been talking to my mum about this, and she reckons that fag packets should give up on bothering to announce that smoking kills (since smokers apparently don't give a damn whether they die from it) , and should instead have big letters on them saying things like "Smoking is not cool" , "Smoking sucks" or "Smokers are lame".

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