Man Tasered and Prevented from Rescuing Son

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07 Nov 2013, 1:18 am

When you love someone more than yourself, you want to save them from a horrible fate. Those cops should've either allowed the father to enter the building, or done so themselves.


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07 Nov 2013, 4:02 am

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And while they all just stood around and waited for the fire department, what kind of police officer wouldn’t try and save a 3-year-old burning in a house?” said sister-in-law Emily Miller.


Potential problems, there. How long did they wait, and was the house really too dangerous to go into at the time he was tazed? Are the police expert enough with fires to judge when it's not safe to got in? Do they tend to be too cautious about going in and too quick & heavy-handed in subduing a person when it might not be necessary (because they do that all the time)?

If those cops got it wrong they should to be glad some of the guy's kids survived, otherwise he might have no reason to live and a lot of rage.



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07 Nov 2013, 10:13 am

This is akin to police forcing people to evacuate before a hurricane. There are two ways to look at government: That police and the government know best, and the citizens have a duty to serve government and police, which is the liberal/authoritarian way; or where the citizenry is presumed to know best, and police and government work for them, which was the traditional understanding in America. As George Washington noted, government is a fearful servant and an intolerable master. This story is evidence of the latter, and of the emerging post-American nation.



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07 Nov 2013, 10:41 am

If the police allowed him to enter the building and he died,than the family would loose another member.And then everyone would ask why the police let him enter that building.
If I saw someone trying to enter a burning structure,and I knew there was no chance of them surviving,I would try to stop them.


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07 Nov 2013, 12:07 pm

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
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And while they all just stood around and waited for the fire department, what kind of police officer wouldn’t try and save a 3-year-old burning in a house?” said sister-in-law Emily Miller.


Potential problems, there. How long did they wait, and was the house really too dangerous to go into at the time he was tazed? Are the police expert enough with fires to judge when it's not safe to got in? Do they tend to be too cautious about going in and too quick & heavy-handed in subduing a person when it might not be necessary (because they do that all the time)?

If those cops got it wrong they should to be glad some of the guy's kids survived, otherwise he might have no reason to live and a lot of rage.


I would like to know the order of things. Basically, when you see that FF can't enter a structure in gear, no one in street clothes could. In the fire department, we have a saving, "Risk a lot to save a lot, risk a little to save a little, risk nothing to save nothing." If it's so hot we can't enter, the odds of there being someone alive are so low that it's not worth risking our lives unless we know there is someone alive.

It's a tough question, do you allow someone to commit suicide for a (prob) dead kid?