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18 Jul 2014, 3:09 am

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As my wife and daughter are both blondes, I seriously doubt that I hate them.


And yet you continue to bash them, because FOX!


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18 Jul 2014, 3:12 am

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As my wife and daughter are both blondes, I seriously doubt that I hate them.


And yet you continue to bash them, because FOX!


I don't bash my wife or my little girl.


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18 Jul 2014, 3:34 am

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I don't bash my wife or my little girl.


But you bash blonds...


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18 Jul 2014, 9:50 am

Problem: Don't like Fox
Solution: Don't watch Fox

Gee, that took some deep thought. :roll:


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18 Jul 2014, 11:40 am

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I don't bash my wife or my little girl.


But you bash blonds...


No, I don't like how Fox uses blonds to endorse their political and social agenda.


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18 Jul 2014, 11:43 am

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Problem: Don't like Fox
Solution: Don't watch Fox

Gee, that took some deep thought. :roll:


If only it was that easy. Because Fox promotes such an aggressive social/political agenda in order to change the country rather than just reporting the news, we on the other side of the aisle ignore them at our own peril.


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18 Jul 2014, 11:57 am

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Problem: Don't like Fox
Solution: Don't watch Fox

Gee, that took some deep thought. :roll:


If only it was that easy. Because Fox promotes such an aggressive social/political agenda in order to change the country rather than just reporting the news, we on the other side of the aisle ignore them at our own peril.


It's a conservative leaning news agency and one of the very few. The rest are generally liberal leaning. To what degree one way or the other I don't know or particularly care since I control none of them. Differences of opinion and free speech are the perils of a free society....


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18 Jul 2014, 11:58 am

If they really wanted to bring diversity issues to the fore, why not talk about the fact that they only have 2 "non-white" females in that group. I'm guessing that the whole blondes are dumb stereotypes plays in there somewhere.


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18 Jul 2014, 12:24 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Problem: Don't like Fox
Solution: Don't watch Fox

Gee, that took some deep thought. :roll:


If only it was that easy. Because Fox promotes such an aggressive social/political agenda in order to change the country rather than just reporting the news, we on the other side of the aisle ignore them at our own peril.


It's a conservative leaning news agency and one of the very few. The rest are generally liberal leaning. To what degree one way or the other I don't know or particularly care since I control none of them. Differences of opinion and free speech are the perils of a free society....


I wouldn't have such a low opinion of Fox simply being conservative, were it not for the fact that they clearly give such a slanted view of events with the intent of shaping public opinion and altering the political process. As for the charge that the rest of the media is liberal - well, I can't dispute the fact that many reporters are just that, but many if not most of them practice unbiased journalism that is hardly seen on Fox. In fact, the only major news source that's openly liberal is MSNBC, but even they can hardly be accused of going to the extent of slanting the news to the point of altering it as with Fox.


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18 Jul 2014, 12:53 pm

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If only it was that easy. Because Fox promotes such an aggressive social/political agenda in order to change the country rather than just reporting the news, we on the other side of the aisle ignore them at our own peril.


That's how non-liberals feel about the rest of the old guard media; some of them went out and did something about it and founded FOX, others blog and amalgamate news to try and bring the whole picture out. That's all fine, as is calling out slanted reporting when you see it, what I'm objecting to, is making moronic attacks like reading way too much significance into the hair color distribution of the on air talent and drawing ridiculous conclusions from it.


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18 Jul 2014, 12:54 pm

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I wouldn't have such a low opinion of Fox simply being conservative, were it not for the fact that they clearly give such a slanted view of events with the intent of shaping public opinion and altering the political process. As for the charge that the rest of the media is liberal - well, I can't dispute the fact that many reporters are just that, but many if not most of them practice unbiased journalism that is hardly seen on Fox. In fact, the only major news source that's openly liberal is MSNBC, but even they can hardly be accused of going to the extent of slanting the news to the point of altering it as with Fox.


You really believe this, don't you?


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18 Jul 2014, 1:18 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Problem: Don't like Fox
Solution: Don't watch Fox

Gee, that took some deep thought. :roll:


If only it was that easy. Because Fox promotes such an aggressive social/political agenda in order to change the country rather than just reporting the news, we on the other side of the aisle ignore them at our own peril.


It's a conservative leaning news agency and one of the very few. The rest are generally liberal leaning. To what degree one way or the other I don't know or particularly care since I control none of them. Differences of opinion and free speech are the perils of a free society....


I wouldn't have such a low opinion of Fox simply being conservative, were it not for the fact that they clearly give such a slanted view of events with the intent of shaping public opinion and altering the political process. As for the charge that the rest of the media is liberal - well, I can't dispute the fact that many reporters are just that, but many if not most of them practice unbiased journalism that is hardly seen on Fox. In fact, the only major news source that's openly liberal is MSNBC, but even they can hardly be accused of going to the extent of slanting the news to the point of altering it as with Fox.


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There's enough BS in there to fertilize a large vegetable garden for a year.
All I'm seeing here is butthurt that the right is doing the same as the left, only since it's the right doing it somehow it's wrong.
All I'd like to see is news reported as it happens without commentary but no major news agency that I'm aware of honestly provides that. I've had more than one liberal tell me that it takes more than simply reporting to be effective. That a news agency should take on the responsibility of shaping public opinion, as if we, the unwashed masses, need to be told what to think.


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18 Jul 2014, 1:45 pm

I'll concede there has been slanted reporting by the mainstream media - such as condemning racism, sexism, and homophobia. But what's possibly wrong with that?


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18 Jul 2014, 1:55 pm

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I'll concede there has been slanted reporting by the mainstream media - such as condemning racism, sexism, and homophobia. But what's possibly wrong with that?


Because all too often it results in people seeing bogeymen everywhere. I have been accused of being a homophobic conservative because I told a former co-worker I couldn't care less when he told me he was gay. I'd have to say that whether you agree with them or not, MSNBC is promotes the seeing of things in a very narrow minded way every bit as often as Fox.

Both sides play this game, just with different scapegoats. Fox just tends to take things a step or two further, and tends to have a more effective marketing group.


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18 Jul 2014, 7:53 pm

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I'll concede there has been slanted reporting by the mainstream media

For now, but you'll suffer selective amnesia about this little concession the next time the topic of slanted media comes up.

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such as condemning racism, sexism, and homophobia. But what's possibly wrong with that?
They tend to fan the flames of racism when the climate is right. Thier eagerness to see racial violence erupt after last year's Zimmerman trial didnt go their way was all too evident.


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The propaganda model is a conceptual model in political economy advanced by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky to explain how propaganda and systemic biases function in mass media. The model seeks to explain how populations are manipulated and how consent for economic, social and political policies is "manufactured" in the public mind due to this propaganda
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