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05 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm

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I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.

don't you wanna know what GMOs are hiding in your food?


There's already a federal labeling system in place, so I don't know why people in Oregon wanted another one just for Oregon.


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05 Nov 2014, 8:49 pm

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I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.

don't you wanna know what GMOs are hiding in your food?


There's already a federal labeling system in place, so I don't know why people in Oregon wanted another one just for Oregon.

I have not seen any federally required gmo labels on any of the food I see at the supermarket.



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06 Nov 2014, 6:25 pm

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democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....

In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians.

People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM.

The Democrats have lost the American working class.


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06 Nov 2014, 6:27 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....

In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians.

People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM.

The Democrats have lost the American working class.


The Democrats need to get back to their radical populist roots. I.W.W!! !!


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06 Nov 2014, 6:28 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians. People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM. The Democrats have lost the American working class.

which is another way of saying, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." when will the working class get wise and vote for pols that help them and not make life harder for them?



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06 Nov 2014, 6:32 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians. People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM. The Democrats have lost the American working class.

which is another way of saying, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." when will the working class get wise and vote for pols that help them and not make life harder for them?


It won't be until certain other factions on the left stop making fun of them and belittling them for things like going to church and believing in god.


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06 Nov 2014, 6:45 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians. People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM. The Democrats have lost the American working class.

which is another way of saying, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." when will the working class get wise and vote for pols that help them and not make life harder for them?


It won't be until certain other factions on the left stop making fun of them and belittling them for things like going to church and believing in god.

no offense to you, but to me, that sounds a lot like an example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, IOW voting for a guy who will injure you because the good guy wasn't friendly enough. or something like that.



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06 Nov 2014, 6:46 pm

GoonSquad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians. People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM. The Democrats have lost the American working class.

which is another way of saying, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." when will the working class get wise and vote for pols that help them and not make life harder for them?


It won't be until certain other factions on the left stop making fun of them and belittling them for things like going to church and believing in god.


Extremely good point!


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06 Nov 2014, 7:40 pm

I don't understand how anyone could oppose GMO labeling, big business must of worked overtime to convince people that was against their self interest



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06 Nov 2014, 7:54 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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It won't be until certain other factions on the left stop making fun of them and belittling them for things like going to church and believing in god.

no offense to you, but to me, that sounds a lot like an example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, IOW voting for a guy who will injure you because the good guy wasn't friendly enough. or something like that.


Unfortunately, people are not rational.

People vote for those they think are like them or those they aspire to be like, not those who have their best interests at heart....

I know it's extremely unpalatable to many, but democrats would do much better in the south if southern democrats were allowed to oppose things like abortion and gun control. THEN, you could actually get poor southerners to vote democrat on economic issues.

But, as long as the democratic party is branded as the party of abortion, gun control, and godlessness, it will never carry the south, and it will lose more and more of the mid-west.

Sad but true.


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06 Nov 2014, 8:07 pm

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I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.


And what is so wrong about GMO labeling?....though as far as I knew it is already allowed just not required everywhere. But are you saying GMO labeling isn't even allowed in your state?


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06 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm

I did vote, but feel like voting for any candidates was kind of pointless...none of them really appealed, just went with the ones who seemed more reasonable but meh probably should have just stuck to voting on the issues. Voted for GMO labeling on food, for something about public having access to what is discussed on school board meetings and such and have more imput, and against a stupid thing about entirely banning abortion.


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06 Nov 2014, 9:51 pm

auntblabby wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
democrats really need to improve their GOTV efforts especially in mid-years.


It's more than that....In my state and 4 others, people voted for Democratic policies (raising the minimum wage) but they still voted for Republican politicians. People vote for those they perceive to be LIKE THEM. The Democrats have lost the American working class.

which is another way of saying, "we have met the enemy, and he is us." when will the working class get wise and vote for pols that help them and not make life harder for them?


Neither party can do that. Our system is built to fail and the chief responsibility for that is upon the lobbyists. The idea of government itself is a necessary evil. That is why I believe we should limit it, because it inevitably rears it's ugly head from time to time and there is a great cost when that happens. Government is amoral. It has no accountability. It feeds indiscriminately and it takes just as much ground as it can but not an inch more.


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07 Nov 2014, 4:45 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.

don't you wanna know what GMOs are hiding in your food?


why, it'll just increase prices, and guess what gmo or not poor people can't chose cause its food is needed to live and we have tiny budgets.

also it would exempt lots of stuff including food are restaurants so you could have a place making food from food with gmo and not know it. if you don't want gmos just buy all the organic stuff. having 1 state out of 50 requiring special labeling will raise costs.



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07 Nov 2014, 5:29 pm

sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.

don't you wanna know what GMOs are hiding in your food?


why, it'll just increase prices, and guess what gmo or not poor people can't chose cause its food is needed to live and we have tiny budgets.

also it would exempt lots of stuff including food are restaurants so you could have a place making food from food with gmo and not know it. if you don't want gmos just buy all the organic stuff. having 1 state out of 50 requiring special labeling will raise costs.


There is absolutely no reason why it would raise costs, that argument could be used any form of labeling. People have a right to know.



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07 Nov 2014, 6:59 pm

Jacoby wrote:
sly279 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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I voted. Thankfully, the current Governor of Oregon won re-election, although narrowly, and a measure that would have allowed GMO labeling thankfully failed, although narrowly.

A measure that allowed legalization of recreational pot was approved, making Oregon the third state to legalize recreational pot.

don't you wanna know what GMOs are hiding in your food?


why, it'll just increase prices, and guess what gmo or not poor people can't chose cause its food is needed to live and we have tiny budgets.

also it would exempt lots of stuff including food are restaurants so you could have a place making food from food with gmo and not know it. if you don't want gmos just buy all the organic stuff. having 1 state out of 50 requiring special labeling will raise costs.


There is absolutely no reason why it would raise costs, that argument could be used any form of labeling. People have a right to know.


ok so the companies have to have a label for oregon and a label for the other 49 states. so now they have to have two labeling machines. and to processing lines, cause can't send the non gmo labels to oregon on accident. so yeah no way that would increase production cost. and like any good corporation or rich people they going pass the cost onto the consumer not from their profits.

heres a little trick for you. <whispers> most food has gmos in them<whispers> the ones that don't are labeled as organic or nature.

if you want to do it do it federally it'll still raise prices but due to it being all over the nation it will be a smaller increase then just in one state.

also some companies will just fail to afford it and cease sending in their products. food is already going up in price to the point I can't afford things I use to. stouffer's lasagna went from $10 up to $15 in the last 6 months.