I'm upset about mass immigration in the US

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That sounds really racist even if you say you love all races. I sometimes think being white is something to be deeply ashamed of, that we really are nothing but evil white devils who slaughtered the Natives, enslaved Africans and infected tribes with our many filthy European diseases. But I was born this way so what can I do?

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Genocide, enslavement, and disease are hardly exclusive to Europeans. The slaves that we brought to this country were sold into slavery by other Africans, Indians were killing Indians long before they ever saw a white man, sickness has existed since the dawn of our very existence. Don't be ashamed for things you had no hand in, collectivized guilt is how racism and hatred in general has been spread all throughout human history. We are individuals we make our own decisions and with our own values, I don't care what some weirdo from the 16th century did as it wasn't me.

My community is, if anything, more White than ever before, largely because todays farmers have much better farm equipment and can generally do more and more of the work themselves. Also, with the high price of fuel, people don't plow the same fields over and over and over again all summer. Overall, the county is probably 75% to 80% White and 20% to 25% Hispanic.

The interesting change here is the high school. When I was in high school, I think we had one Hispanic in my class -- the rest were all White. These days, I think that half or more of each class are Hispanic.

Don't despair ...

1. "Hispanic whites" are surging, so whether "white America" will become a minority or a super-majority is in question.

- For example, in the U.S. according to the census slightly over 50% of Hispanics in the US identify as "white".

- Also, according to Pew Research millions of Hispanic people changed their racial designation to "white" from the last census , so there is possibly a trend of Hispanics joining mainstream America, and consequently seeing themselves as "white". For example, the actor Charlie Sheen said that although he is Hispanic, based on his success and money, he identifies as a white guy.

2. However, we know "white people" are not really white. So, the census could alter the racial designation tomorrow, say and add "peach", or have gradients of peach color, and that would be the end of the so-called "white people". So, the census could make white people a minority at any time.

Racism and Xenophobia that's all this thread screams, before you know it the OP will spout off the anti racism is code for anti white LOL!

It is in the news all the time. MSNBC, CNN are giddy that "Republicans are finished nationally because of demographic changes".

Yes, liberals do seem racist, because they focus on race much, however, they present themselves as non-racist. This is what the OP is discussing.

Let me emphasize:

Immigration is what the United States is all about. If people fail to see that, they don't know their history.

Let me tell you this: Our ancestors should have turned Columbus and the pilgrims away while they still had the chance. I mean, looked what has happened to this land once the white people started taking over! Pollution, urbanization, industrialization ...

O Great Spirit! When will it end?!

I would say you're right about turning away Columbus.

The Europeans didn't mean to do this: but most of the native peoples passed away because of their lack of immunity to European diseases.

My words do not convey the impact this must have had upon the native populations circa 16-17th centuries.

What we really need is for immigrants to assimilate and add to the culture instead of holding themselves apart maintain their old culture. When someone comes to the US, it should be to become Americans, not to try to try to force Americans to become part of their culture. Keep the best of both cultures.

Remember that when you go somewhere, it is your job to adapt, not everyone else's job to adapt themselves to you. That applies whether it is a school, a job, a club, or another country. If you aren't willing to become part of the new culture, then you should just stay home.

In my experience, most immigrants, especially the children of immigrants, try their utmost to assimilate.

It's a classic battle sometimes: immigrant parents sticking to the "old ways," immigrant children becoming "more American than most Americans."

However, just saying that does not make the people who "lose to an immigrant" feel better.

I cited many examples prior of different people upset at immigrants. For example, the person who lost his job to a H1B Indian worker can take comfort in knowing "immigration is what this country is all about" ? No, of course.

Well...the person should look for another job. And not stew in his/her anger.

I would be upset, all the same, if my job was taken by that Indian man/woman because of his/her Visa status. Of course, I would see the unfairness in that. But that wouldn't affect my attitude towards all immigrants.

I stand by what I said previously.

As far as politics or religion goes, I tend to not get involved, however I understand where you're coming from!
I'm from the uk and I personally feel that due to the mass of immigration here, that the British identity is also going.
One thing having mixed cultures but if it destroys the identity of a specific culture and basically " takes over" then theirs a crisis point! I feel that everything that was once British, the culture, the churches, everything that made Britain British, the identity is slowly being taken away, theirs less churches in our country now and more mosques ect although i'm not a religious person, Britain was known for being a Christian country. Theirs even specific schools here for Muslims/Islamic people only. ( they get more help then those with disabilities or those who where born british)
I can understand how you're feeling, if you feel that the white American identity is slowly being taken away due to mass immigration . I'm all for equality but their comes a point where enoughs enough! No matter where we're all from, each country needs immigration control and those who emigrate, should adapt to the country they're emigrating too, such as learn their language, adapt to their ways ect. Tbh is think too much of mass immigration has happened and it may now be too late to change things.

I see where you're coming from .

With reference to Hispanics, it's less about race and more about culture. As I already mentioned, my Hispanic neighbors are very hard working, and they have very strong family values. These are things Republicans claim to admire...

However, (besides being a browner shade of white) the thing Republicans don't like is that they aren't social Darwinists. Latinos also understand the value of contributing to the COLLECTIVE GOOD.

I think the growing Hispanic population will be a moderating force on American politics. That is a good thing.

Hell, the Republicans are already changing and moderating their politics and moving away from social Darwinism because THEY HAVE TO. Too many people are falling out of the middle class and experiencing the reality of income inequality first hand...

Right now, we are living in the second Gilded Age. It cannot last. One way or another, things are bound to change, just like they always have.

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