Finally an explanation about what looks like global cooling

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I assume that you mean human history according to written reports. If so, the amount of warming or cooling is less than that.

During the Holocene Climatic Optimum, something like 8,000 years ago, temperatures were about 2 C higher than today. Humans have been around far longer than that and have seen a large rise in temperature since the end of the last glacial period of this ice age.

That's a good point about the poles warming more than the equator. From what I've read, temperatures at the equator aren't likely to increase all that much. Under Global Warming, life there would go on much as it is now. The further from the equator one is, the more evident that Global Warming would be.

I, for one, see this as an opportunity for mankind to flourish, not some kind of threat.

With increased productivity due to Global Warming and to higher CO2 concentrations in the air, habitat is sure to increase.

I don't live anywhere near the great lakes. I can only talk about what is happening around me and several lakes are very low and losing water every year. If the trend continues they will dry up completely. Why do people assume climate is this big all encompassing thing? All you need to do is travel across the southwest US you will see so many vastly different climates and they are experiencing different effects. So, if one place is colder than normal, not every place will experience that.

Habitat underwater due to sea level rise. The COs will "sure" quicken the pace of habitat reduction on land.

I think that the predictions are generally that with Global Warming, the desert southwest will be wetter, not dryer. If you are concerned about lakes in the southwest drying up, you should be solidly in favor of Global Warming to counter that.

Do realise that the dryest places on the planet are found in Antarctica.

A few centimetres rise in sea level would not remove much land habitat at even. Even a metre or so would result in the formation of lots of very shallow seas and wetlands...

I am not talking abstract predictions, reality, rather. Right now the lakes are drying. The surface water is evaporating. If it doesn't stop, the surface water will not be there in the future. This is the scenario where I live.

Unless, of course, the more humid air leads to increased precipitation.

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That's pretty funny. You clearly believe the models showing Global Warming and then turn around and disbelieve the models! Hahahahaha. You cannot have it both ways. If the models are correct, at least to some extent, we will see Global Warming and the desert southwest will be wetter. If they are incorrect, then we won't see Global Warming and the desert southwest weather will be as it is now - subject to the same conditions as now.

The scientific research shows that this drought has nothing to do with Global Warming. Nothing to do with it at all. It shows that the drought is part of the natural variability. More specifically, it is the result of weather conditions in the Pacific Ocean -- weather that is the result of a cooler sea surface temperatures that resulted from La Nina.

Higher temperatures does NOT mean dryer. It is far more complex than that. What matters is not higher temperatures, but the weather patterns resulting from the higher temperatures. If you look at history when the temperatures were markedly higher than today, you will find major difference in rain. In particular, during the Holocene Climatic Optimum, the warmest part in the current interglacial warm period, it was roughly 2 C warmer than today and the Sahara Desert was green, the Gobi Desert was a forest, and northern Mexico was substantially wetter than today. Are you seriously going to suggest that somehow today's warming is going to be very different than what has happened in the past with warming? If you do, then that is nothing but mysticism and is not based on science at all.

Have you thought about where the driest deserts are today? Hint: they are not hot. There's the Atacama in South America where it is so dry that in some places it did not rain at all for over 400 years. Interestingly enough, they have had one or two rains in the last several years as it has warmed slightly. Another is in Antarctica -- a region where the ground is bare because snowfall is so rare in that valley that the very tiny bit of snow that does fall is able to sublimate -- goes from snow and ice directly to water vapor skipping the liquid stage -- long before it snows more. The amount of snow is so little that it is long gone before the next snow.

I love it how people who are in a panic about Global Warming claim that science is on their side when they are really just irrationally picking and choosing which science to believe based on a personal whim.

What if it isn't a drought....what if it is merely "climate change?" Did you think of that possibility???? What does climate change really mean to you???

Could it be that our U.S. lakes are drying up because of actions that have little to do with weather?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas ... sappearing

http://www.alternet.org/story/16044/bottled_water_blues

http://www.endoftheamericandream.com/ar ... er-crisiss

http://www.alternet.org/story/95471/why ... nzi_scheme

There has been a number of research studies of the current drought and they show it to be a natural variation in weather unrelated to Global Warming. At least one study conjectured that Global Warming might possibly create conditions that could aggravate the drought to some small amount, but the fact remained that it was weather, not climate change. Take away the effects of the weather and there would be no such drought, Global Warming/Climate Change or not.

And yet there's another study addressing the global warming pause and that wasn't even dreamed up when they first started discussing climate change. I won't be convinced until I see a reversal and the lake levels are on the rise.

A lot of this stuff seems to be people not really knowing and we are just measuring phenomena as it occurs before our eyes and right now, where I live, our eyes tell us surface water is disappearing. Whether it keeps up remains to be seen but if it does, the surface water will be gone one day in the not-too-distant future.

And it should concern us several lakes around the world are either gone or in the process of drying up now. Many have shrank significantly.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-n ... p/30646819


Most of the western US is experiencing a "drought" what happens if it decides to keep creeping east? Add to that population increases putting new demands on the water that's already on the surface and aquifers. It is easy to see why there's talk of water shortages in the future.

People need to seriously get into the reality check mode. Where I live, fracking occurs on a daily basis, which takes a lot of water, residents and businesses still water their yards and property throughout the year wasting gallons and gallons, living like the lakes were at the same level they were ten years ago when they are clearly in a state of crises now.

Okay. I get it now.

Forget reality. Forget science. Let's all panic.

Did I get it right?

You remind me of what one girl in college used to say:

I think it's a good idea to worry a bit right now rather than just let everything get worse and worse and then worry when there's really nothing more that can be done.

You're absolutely correct -- it is never too early to panic.