Not All Jews are White

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This is going to be about the 26,431,893rd time someone on the internet has had to have this explained to them, but here goes:

It is lineage that determines what race someone is, not "what they look like".

The OP post just says "discuss this topic".

I think that looks strange. Why wouldn't the OP at least start it off in some direction. That's custom when starting a thread, isn't it?

So....what color you are has nothing to do with....what color you are?

Adolf Hitler's DNA shows he and his family were of Jewish and even North African ancestry. Does that mean the hero of white supremacists wasn't really white?

The original post was a bit inane. And the original poster has not yet returned to participate in "his" thread. So we dont know what he was thinking when he posted it.

What I said DOES contradict what you said. The "color classification" of Jews varied from era to era, and place to place,over the centuries in the Western non Jewish world. Whether either the non Jewish world, or the Jews themselves, were ever a truly "cohesive group" is irrelevent. The classification varied, and varied because non Jews varied over time and place as to what to call Jews according to the varied interests of those non Jews. The color classification did not generally come from Jews themselves.

Why does it matter to you so much- what color to label Jews as?

I just wanted to learn about other sects of Judaism from the folks here at WP. I know little to nothing about non-Ashkenazi Jewish culture.

Do pay attention. That's not what I said. I said that what colour someone is does not determine what race they are. Or to put it in even simpler terms than was necessary for Kraichgauer: colour does not equate to race.
The Japanese are generally quite pale. Do you think they belong to what is generally understood as the White race? Do you think South Asian Indians belong to the same race as American Blacks because their skin is often a similar colour?
If you want to continue to pretend not to understand this, then fine, but it won't do your credibility any good.

LOL! No, it does not! Even if the classification of Jews differed among non-Jews, it would not preclude the possibility of Jews themselves claiming to be one thing one minute and then something else the next.

It IS relevant to the original accusation you made against gentiles: that they flip-flop over how to classify Jews. It is ridiculous to accuse a group of constantly changing their minds if that group (like "gentile") is not really a group in the first place. Even the two examples you gave (a Black man and a White man) are about as racially distant as it's possible for humans to be. It's like accusing non-human mammals of flip-flopping over how to relate to humans.

Are you just changing tack here and trying to shame me for thinking about things I'm not supposed to think about?
1. I am talking about what race Jews belong to, not what colour they are, and if you continue to equate race with colour it's going to become increasingly obvious to people you're being dishonest.
2. It's kind of related to the subject of this thread, isn't it? The title of this thread makes the point that "Not all Jews are White". My response: No Jews are White.
3. Well the Jews in general seem pretty obsessed with what they are. (Try typing 'what does it mean to be jewish' into google.) Why don't you ask them why it matters so much?

You took the bait. I knew it from the get go because the title was incendiary and the post itself vague.

He started another race-bait thread too by the way. Don't reply to it.

I didn't know that what I posted would be hurtful. I'm sorry.

To be fair, Jews are not a "race". They are an ethnic group but more importantly they are a religion that has expanded beyond the original founding ethnic group.


I noticed that LonelyJar failed to respond to my post informing him about black african jews like the Lemba of Zimbabwe who speak a Bantu language.

Yep. Lonelyjar (apparently didn't mean to) but he opened up the chasm. And some of us have gotten sucked into it! Lol!

I see Jews of many colours in my area and it's very neat to see. Religion knows no colour.

Sorry, for not responding sooner, AR1500. Prior to your post, the only African Jews I knew about were Ethiopian Jews and the black Jews mentioned in this video: [LINK]

I know someone mentioned Sammy Davis Jr., but nobody has mentioned Yaphet Kotto? (he's an actor from Cameroon).

Charles Taylor (yes, that Charles Taylor) recently converted to Messianic Judaism.

Yaphet Kotto is Jewish?