2016 Primaries - 22 March Thread: AZ, ID, UT, AmS

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23 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm

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Ted'z wife is an executive at Goldman Sachs and has very odd police report from 2006, that's why Ted should be very careful with his or his surrogates words about other candidate's wives. I think there is a lot more merit and interest in inquiring about Heidi Cruz than I do with Melania posing as a model. Trump fights back and he goes for the knockout, dirty lyin' Ted better watch out.

You could find dirt on Mother Teresa if you looked hard enough.Maybe she ignored a leper or something like that.
I must have jinxed myself,Cotton is on CNN right now.


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23 Mar 2016, 4:38 pm

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It's not that people are seeing the photo, I think everybody knows she was a model but sending this out the day of the caucus to a bunch of Mormons is just dirty dirty politics. Talking about any candidate's wife like that really is crossing the line in my opinion, even sites Slate/Salon/Buzzfeed agreed that it was essentially slut shaming what they were trying to do and it's not right. People attack Trump for his multiple divorces but he's been with Melania for almost 20 years, that beats half of America right there but unlike Bill Clinton he doesn't have a bunch of people coming out of the woodwork to say he raped them or sexually assaulted them. He has good relationships with his ex-wives, he has been great father and has successful children(unlike a lot of families prominent political figures) I like the Trump family.


There is a line? Could have fooled me.


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23 Mar 2016, 7:43 pm

But what happened in American Samoa?


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23 Mar 2016, 7:44 pm

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But what happened in American Samoa?


delegates are uncommitted



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23 Mar 2016, 7:49 pm

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Darmok wrote:
But what happened in American Samoa?


delegates are uncommitted


So you're saying Chris Christie still has a chance?


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23 Mar 2016, 8:42 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Talking about any candidate's wife like that really is crossing the line in my opinion,

So you're against trump's retaliation?
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Trump fights back and he goes for the knockout, dirty lyin' Ted better watch out.

Or is it only bad if it's anyone but trump doing it?

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...his wives. Vs bill clinton...


Correct me if i'm wrong, but did an ex wife not say he raped her (later retracted).. And though the divorce was granted uncontested since he'd been going around publicly with another woman, the fact that she has a gag order and is not "allowed" to discuss / speak ill of their marriage is a little curious.

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he has been great father


He said he might be dating his daughter if she weren't, you know, his daughter. That to me is beyond creepy and not remotely a great father. (And no, it's not a media smear, these are his words). Followed by another interview where asked what he has in common with his daughter "well, i would say sex, but.." Wtf.


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and has successful children(unlike a lot of families prominent political figures)..

His sons go 'trophy' hunting in africa.. Killed a leopard. Killed and cut the tail off an elephant. Among others.. I'd be proud.


And when it comes to being a gem for women, he says s**t like:
"26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?"
Ah, yes, obviously men can't be around women without raping them.


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23 Mar 2016, 8:53 pm

Keep repeating the same stupid memes, they will never work. It's funny how you guys say Trump never speaks in specifics but you dodos have given up arguing policy a long time ago. Ted Cruz's wife is an executive at Goldman Sachs and if they're going to attack Melania then she is fair game. Don't hit unless you're prepared to be hit back.



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23 Mar 2016, 9:35 pm

First off- calling people dodos is immature. Secondly- the fact that they need to bring their wives into this, just shows how desperate and pathetic they are. The old saying goes "two wrongs don't make a right". These guys are candidates to be president- they should act more mature. I'm in reference to EVERYONE involved- not just Trump. It's stupid as hell that politics has been flooded with namecalling, racism, "modeling pics" and so on. I realize this isnt a new thing- that doesn't justify what they are doing is right.



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23 Mar 2016, 9:39 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Keep repeating the same stupid memes, they will never work. It's funny how you guys say Trump never speaks in specifics but you dodos have given up arguing policy a long time ago. Ted Cruz's wife is an executive at Goldman Sachs and if they're going to attack Melania then she is fair game. Don't hit unless you're prepared to be hit back.


I didn't realize we were discussing policy. I thought we were discussing what a wonderful, amazing man trump is and what a great husband, family, and father. If we were discusing policy, i wouldn't bring up creepy wanting to sleep with his daughter or his sons' great elephant hunt that dad supports.

Cruz didn't do the ad; a super pac did. Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe it is illegal for cruz to either tell them what to run or what not to run. There are a few workarounds, but they have to be public (would be known). And anyway, why would he care?

Want to talk policy? It's far more concerning to me that someone is a presedential candidate feels they have 'no choice' but to go on and on and on about their (not!) tiny hands or megyn kelly or other trivial slights like 'how dare you run this ad!! Better watch out!' instead of discussing policy and things that matter.


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23 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm

Trump is the only one that talks policy, he talks and talks and talks more than anyone else. They are attacking Trump's character, they won't argue about the trade deals, they won't argue against the immigration issue(the ones that did went bye bye), they sure as hell won't say anything approaching a non-interventionist position. These other jokers are the ones that are coming up with these ridiculous attacks, the whole small hands thing was little Marco's own genius.

Your dailykos memes are a joke, Hillary will be crushed in November. What will you do then? She will likely flee the country to avoid prosecution from our next president because this the miscarriage of justice from Obama's DOJ. She and her husband are evil evil people. Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, same thing.



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23 Mar 2016, 10:54 pm

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Trump is the only one that talks policy, he talks and talks and talks more than anyone else. They are attacking Trump's character, they won't argue about the trade deals, they won't argue against the immigration issue(the ones that did went bye bye), they sure as hell won't say anything approaching a non-interventionist position. These other jokers are the ones that are coming up with these ridiculous attacks, the whole small hands thing was little Marco's own genius.

Your dailykos memes are a joke, Hillary will be crushed in November. What will you do then? She will likely flee the country to avoid prosecution from our next president because this the miscarriage of justice from Obama's DOJ. She and her husband are evil evil people. Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, same thing.



I agree that trump talks and talks and talks. But quantity does not equal quality.


And who are they? And where are these arguments happening? The last scheduled debate, trump jumped out of (didn't reschedule) so he could go in front of aipac and do a 180 on the i'll be neutral between israel and palestine into a have no doubt, i'm 1,000% behind israel.

Assuming you're talking to me, i don't know what dailykos is, nor have i posted any memes. Any quotes of trump i post are things i've watched trump say on a show, say in an interview, or tweet.

He's the one who says things like "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."
That's not a cute made up meme. That's trump. https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 2191248385
If his mouth keeps spilling out such things while he talks and talks, that's his own issue. And it is an issue.

As for small hands, yes, marco said it in a lovely moment where the finest of talents were on display. But that doesn't mean trump had to keep going on and on and on about it.

A presedential candidate ignores the comment; turns it against marco - we're talking about serious issues that this country faces and you're making childish jabs about the size of someone's hands? And say he even took the bait. You Let It Go. You don't tweet more about it. You have an interview and if they ask, you say there's no reason to discuss this, there are far more important issues facing the world than the size of my hands. Trump though, goes on and on about how he *had* to reply. And couldn't possibly have anyone think he has small hands and what that might mean. And how gobs of people were all coming up to him admiring his hands.

His neurotic level of unencumbered insecurity/narcissism is dangerous for a president. This is not joe entertainer, this is supposed to be someone with self-restraint who represents an entire nation and has the ability start wars.

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From an interview -
HIATT: Just back to the campaign. You are smart and you went to a good school. Yet you are up there and talking about your hands and the size of private …

TRUMP: No …

HIATT: … your private parts.

TRUMP: No, no. No, no. I am not doing that.

HIATT: Do you regret having engaged in that?

TRUMP: No, I had to do it. Look, this guy. Here’s my hands. Now I have my hands, I hear, on the New Yorker, a picture of my hands.

MARCUS: You’re on the cover.

TRUMP: A hand with little fingers coming out of a stem. Like, little. Look at my hands. They’re fine. Nobody other than Graydon Carter years ago used to use that. My hands are normal hands. During a debate, he was losing, and he said, “Oh, he has small hands and therefore, you know what that means.” This was not me. This was Rubio that said, “He has small hands and you know what that means.” Okay? So, he started it. So, what I said a couple of days later … and what happened is I was on line shaking hands with supporters, and one of supporters got up and he said, “Mr. Trump, you have strong hands. You have good-sized hands.” And then another one would say, “You have great hands, Mr. Trump, I had no idea.” I said, “What do you mean?” He said, “I thought you were like deformed, and I thought you had small hands.” I had fifty people … Is that a correct statement? I mean people were writing, “How are Mr. Trump’s hands?” My hands are fine. You know, my hands are normal. Slightly large, actually. In fact, I buy a slightly smaller than large glove, okay? No, but I did this because everybody was saying to me, “Oh, your hands are very nice. They are normal.” So Rubio, in a debate, said, because he had nothing else to say … now I was hitting him pretty hard. He wanted to do his Don Rickles stuff and it didn’t work out. Obviously, it didn’t work too well. But one of the things he said was “He has small hands and therefore, you know what that means, he has small something else.” You can look it up. I didn’t say it.

MARCUS: You chose to raise it …

TRUMP: No, I chose to respond.

MARUS: You chose to respond.

TRUMP: I had no choice.

MARCUS: You chose to raise it during a debate. Can you explain why you had no choice?

TRUMP: I don’t want people to go around thinking that I have a problem. I’m telling you, Ruth, I had so many people. I would say 25, 30 people would tell me … every time I’d shake people’s hand, “Oh, you have nice hands.” Why shouldn’t I? And, by the way, by saying that I solved the problem. Nobody questions … I even held up my hands, and said, “Look, take a look at that hand.”

MARCUS: You told us in the debate ….

TRUMP: And by saying that, I solved the problem. Nobody questions. Everyone held my hand. I said look. Take a look at that hand.

MARCUS: You told us in the debate that you guaranteed there was not another problem. Was that presidential? And why did you decide to do that?

TRUMP: I don’t know if it was presidential, honestly, whether it is or not. He said, ‘Donald Trump has small hands and therefore he has small something else.’ I didn’t say that. And all I did is when he failed, when he was failing, when he was, when Christie made him look bad, I gave him the– a little recap and I said, and I said, and I had this big strong powerful hand ready to grab him, because I thought he was going to faint. And everybody took it fine. Whether it was presidential or not I can’t tell you. I can just say that what he said was a lie. And everybody, they wanted to do stories on my hands; after I said that, they never did. And then I held up the hand, I showed people the hand. You know, when I’ve got a big audience. So yeah, I think it’s not a question of presidential …

MARCUS: He said he regrets …

HIATT: Okay, let’s move on here. Let’s move on.

TRUMP: I did feel I should respond. Maybe I’m wrong. I don’t know. But I felt I should respond because everybody was talking about it.


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23 Mar 2016, 11:52 pm

You are repeating the same garbage lines as everyone else that has been attacking Trump lately, that was the directive on how to attack Trump. I do not care abut soundbites, I like that Trump mocks his opponents because these people out of anybody deserve it.

Global warming or the job/industry killing policies to mitigate it if even possible is pretty low on my list of priorities

Trump is the peace candidate, he'll renegotiate these awful trades deals, and he's the only one proposing anything besides mass amnesty which will only assure millions more will be added to this foreign invasion.

Trump is very open and lets his mind be heard, when has Hillary spoken candidly ever? When was the last time she even took questions from reporters? Obama isn't much better, these are the least transparent people in the history our country.

It's just an easy choice between Trump and Hillary, the media hated Reagan too.



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24 Mar 2016, 12:34 am

Huh?The media adored Reagan.
http://www.thenation.com/article/beloved-media/


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24 Mar 2016, 1:27 am

No one but an actual, true God deserves the blind devotion being given to this man.

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Trump is very open and lets his mind be heard, when has Hillary spoken candidly ever? When was the last time she even took questions from reporters? Obama isn't much better, these are the least transparent people in the history our country.

There is a difference between a reasonable and professional level of transparancy and running your mouth off like an unfiltered child. Again, this man is running for president of a country. Anyone who is president, for the safety of all, needs to know when to censor and when to shut up.

As for hillary's last interview, as per google, it was yesterday.

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It's just an easy choice between Trump and Hillary, the media hated Reagan too.

The media hated jeffrey dahmer too. Being unliked by the media is not an indicator of greatness.


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24 Mar 2016, 1:39 am

It's beyond baffling to me that someone can say one of the main things they like about trump (or *any* candidate) is his pledge to be neutral with israel and palestine. But, when he does a 180 in front of aipac, instead of saying that stinks or hmmm...i had higher expectations of him than doing that..or any such thing, it's aha! - that 180 is one of the anti-trump-conspiracy talking points! It's garbage made up to hurt trump! Trump is even More awesome and i stand even more faithfully by his side as a result!

Trump did a 180. No one made him. No one made it up. All him. But noticing it or pointing it out as one of many *policy* issues, that must be from a conspiracy against him.


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24 Mar 2016, 1:46 am

No matter what we say or what FACTS we provide- it doesn't matter. Thats because Trump is perfect to his supporters on this forum and has never done wrong. Also according to the supporters- we are taking things out of context and its just a "media smear" and other things.

You can believe what you want, but many facts are there. They arent out of context and certainly arent all media smears to make us hate Trump. So stop being paranoid and start looking at the actual facts. Or don't.. and continue to ignore important parts of what Trump actually is.