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05 Jul 2016, 5:46 pm

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It is true that Trump's daughter and grandchild are Jewish, as is his son-in-law, so I get it: it's a hard argument that he is an Antisemite. The fact of the matter is, Trump probably doesn't even believe half the sh*t he spews. But he knows that stupid racists - who include not just the members of white supremacist groups who number in the hundreds or thousands, but also the millions who log into those white supremacist sites but keep their hate to themselves - will vote for him if he uses their rhetoric in coded language they can't miss, such as the recent Star of David tweet he had picked up on a Neo-Nazi website. He holds these people in absolute contempt, even as he uses them to reach the White House with a smirk on his face. The thing is, Trump doesn't consider the ramifications of courting and empowering the racist lunatic fringe, who will be expecting something if he is indeed elected to the Presidency.


Trump retweets a picture with a 6 pointed star, that's it. That's not the the Star of David. There is nothing racist or even offensive about that picture, Hillary is corrupt and that is the truth.

Trump is pretty explicitly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, he makes this clear every time he can. He's a real estate mogul from Manhattan, nobody is going to believe he's an antisemite. Trying to argue Trump is a racist at all is a hard sell considering his metropolitan lifestyle and having been in the public eye 30-40 years.

Your theory is crackpot, yes there is this secret plan to court the tens of millions of secret KKK members by "coded" racism that activate them like some Manchurian Candidate. It's stupid, I'm sorry. You have a real low opinion or paranoid view of your fellow Americans if you think there is this massive hidden white supremacist bloc.


I didn't say there were millions of secret Klansmen, but that millions of people go onto white supremacist sites because they secretly agree with that sort of hate, but fear the public reaction to their bigotry. They aren't waiting for any sort of coded messages for them to spring into action, but recognize hate when it's hidden behind more polite language (thugs code for blacks, illegals code for Latinos). No, they aren't waiting to be led, but will follow someone like Trump who says the things they secretly believe.
And that star in the pic isn't a Star of David??? You do know that it was originally posted on an Anti Semitic Neo Nazi site, don't you? Considering that, how could it be anything else?


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05 Jul 2016, 7:53 pm

The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


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05 Jul 2016, 8:24 pm

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It is true that Trump's daughter and grandchild are Jewish, as is his son-in-law, so I get it: it's a hard argument that he is an Antisemite. The fact of the matter is, Trump probably doesn't even believe half the sh*t he spews. But he knows that stupid racists - who include not just the members of white supremacist groups who number in the hundreds or thousands, but also the millions who log into those white supremacist sites but keep their hate to themselves - will vote for him if he uses their rhetoric in coded language they can't miss, such as the recent Star of David tweet he had picked up on a Neo-Nazi website. He holds these people in absolute contempt, even as he uses them to reach the White House with a smirk on his face. The thing is, Trump doesn't consider the ramifications of courting and empowering the racist lunatic fringe, who will be expecting something if he is indeed elected to the Presidency.


Trump retweets a picture with a 6 pointed star, that's it. That's not the the Star of David. There is nothing racist or even offensive about that picture, Hillary is corrupt and that is the truth.

Trump is pretty explicitly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, he makes this clear every time he can. He's a real estate mogul from Manhattan, nobody is going to believe he's an antisemite. Trying to argue Trump is a racist at all is a hard sell considering his metropolitan lifestyle and having been in the public eye 30-40 years.

Your theory is crackpot, yes there is this secret plan to court the tens of millions of secret KKK members by "coded" racism that activate them like some Manchurian Candidate. It's stupid, I'm sorry. You have a real low opinion or paranoid view of your fellow Americans if you think there is this massive hidden white supremacist bloc.


I didn't say there were millions of secret Klansmen, but that millions of people go onto white supremacist sites because they secretly agree with that sort of hate, but fear the public reaction to their bigotry. They aren't waiting for any sort of coded messages for them to spring into action, but recognize hate when it's hidden behind more polite language (thugs code for blacks, illegals code for Latinos). No, they aren't waiting to be led, but will follow someone like Trump who says the things they secretly believe.
And that star in the pic isn't a Star of David??? You do know that it was originally posted on an Anti Semitic Neo Nazi site, don't you? Considering that, how could it be anything else?


Who cares? Trump didn't create the image and I doubt the staffer that retweeted it researched who made it, if it was an actual Star of David then it probably doesn't get retweeted.

This whole 'code' thing is nonsense and way to shut down opposition on issues, this is how political correctness is abused. You can't support a strong border or want illegal immigrants out of the country without being called a racist, you can't address terrorism without being called a racist, you can't address crime without being called a racist, you can't even criticize the president without being called a racist. Stuff like this is exactly why Trump is popular, these people have told to shut up and take their medicine be these coastal elites while the middle of this country has been left to rot and be under constant barrage of attack/shaming of their culture, these elitists think they are the center of the universe and cannot see beyond their own self interest. Of course they're okay with mass illegal immigration since they reap all the benefits and have insulated themselves from the damage it has done.

People should heed the Brexit vote because it wasn't the elitist Tories that it passed but rather because the working class that were abandoned in what was supposedly the Labor heartlands finally had enough of them being on the losing side of globalism. Globalism only benefits the 1%, it will destroy western civilization which is exactly what they want so they can run the entire planet undemocratically. We're under the illusion that we are free when we are ruled, I think we're ready for another French revolution to be honest. It does not benefit the working class, they are going to average our QoL out with the rest of planet which means down down down for us.



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05 Jul 2016, 8:27 pm

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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


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05 Jul 2016, 8:44 pm

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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.



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05 Jul 2016, 8:50 pm

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It is true that Trump's daughter and grandchild are Jewish, as is his son-in-law, so I get it: it's a hard argument that he is an Antisemite. The fact of the matter is, Trump probably doesn't even believe half the sh*t he spews. But he knows that stupid racists - who include not just the members of white supremacist groups who number in the hundreds or thousands, but also the millions who log into those white supremacist sites but keep their hate to themselves - will vote for him if he uses their rhetoric in coded language they can't miss, such as the recent Star of David tweet he had picked up on a Neo-Nazi website. He holds these people in absolute contempt, even as he uses them to reach the White House with a smirk on his face. The thing is, Trump doesn't consider the ramifications of courting and empowering the racist lunatic fringe, who will be expecting something if he is indeed elected to the Presidency.


Trump retweets a picture with a 6 pointed star, that's it. That's not the the Star of David. There is nothing racist or even offensive about that picture, Hillary is corrupt and that is the truth.

Trump is pretty explicitly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel, he makes this clear every time he can. He's a real estate mogul from Manhattan, nobody is going to believe he's an antisemite. Trying to argue Trump is a racist at all is a hard sell considering his metropolitan lifestyle and having been in the public eye 30-40 years.

Your theory is crackpot, yes there is this secret plan to court the tens of millions of secret KKK members by "coded" racism that activate them like some Manchurian Candidate. It's stupid, I'm sorry. You have a real low opinion or paranoid view of your fellow Americans if you think there is this massive hidden white supremacist bloc.


I didn't say there were millions of secret Klansmen, but that millions of people go onto white supremacist sites because they secretly agree with that sort of hate, but fear the public reaction to their bigotry. They aren't waiting for any sort of coded messages for them to spring into action, but recognize hate when it's hidden behind more polite language (thugs code for blacks, illegals code for Latinos). No, they aren't waiting to be led, but will follow someone like Trump who says the things they secretly believe.
And that star in the pic isn't a Star of David??? You do know that it was originally posted on an Anti Semitic Neo Nazi site, don't you? Considering that, how could it be anything else?


Who cares? Trump didn't create the image and I doubt the staffer that retweeted it researched who made it, if it was an actual Star of David then it probably doesn't get retweeted.

This whole 'code' thing is nonsense and way to shut down opposition on issues, this is how political correctness is abused. You can't support a strong border or want illegal immigrants out of the country without being called a racist, you can't address terrorism without being called a racist, you can't address crime without being called a racist, you can't even criticize the president without being called a racist. Stuff like this is exactly why Trump is popular, these people have told to shut up and take their medicine be these coastal elites while the middle of this country has been left to rot and be under constant barrage of attack/shaming of their culture, these elitists think they are the center of the universe and cannot see beyond their own self interest. Of course they're okay with mass illegal immigration since they reap all the benefits and have insulated themselves from the damage it has done.

People should heed the Brexit vote because it wasn't the elitist Tories that it passed but rather because the working class that were abandoned in what was supposedly the Labor heartlands finally had enough of them being on the losing side of globalism. Globalism only benefits the 1%, it will destroy western civilization which is exactly what they want so they can run the entire planet undemocratically. We're under the illusion that we are free when we are ruled, I think we're ready for another French revolution to be honest. It does not benefit the working class, they are going to average our QoL out with the rest of planet which means down down down for us.


Well, you shouldn't be critical of the President if that criticism entails obvious racist and bigoted slander, such as claiming that he wasn't really born an American, or that he's a secret Muslim (there is no law against Muslims running for office), or that his church isn't a real Christian church. Criticizing crime or any other social ill is not wrong, save when "those people" are labeled as the sole cause. If people in the middle of the country don't like being labeled hayseeds and crackers by those of us living on the coasts (elites or not), then I dare say they shouldn't act like they are.
Would anyone really be upset with illegal immigration was coming from Canada, rather than brown people who speak a language other than English? While not everyone who opposes illegal immigration are racists, I don't know of a single white supremacist who isn't frothing at the mouth against immigration, legal or otherwise.
And sure, much of the British working class was for Brexit. But populist movements are often energized by bigotry, and in news interviews with the average Briton on the street, a whole lot of the reason why they voted to leave the EU had much to do with anti-immigration.


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05 Jul 2016, 8:54 pm

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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.


Sure, it was a retweet. I just can't believe he didn't recognize what the star image was, especially since it had come off of a white supremacist website. And if he did know where it came from, then it was intended by him for a specific audience.


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05 Jul 2016, 9:19 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.


Sure, it was a retweet. I just can't believe he didn't recognize what the star image was, especially since it had come off of a white supremacist website. And if he did know where it came from, then it was intended by him for a specific audience.


Again it is just a 6 point star rather than a Star of David and Trump probably gets tweeted at by millions of people every day. Getting celebrities to retweet offensive stuff is something of a trolling art btw, they do it all the time with purposely wrongly attributed quotes that are actually from someone like Adolf Hitler and all types of things. Trump doesn't even run his own twitter fwiw, he writes out his tweets and then a staffer does it. Manufactured controversy is all this is.



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05 Jul 2016, 9:44 pm

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Well, you shouldn't be critical of the President if that criticism entails obvious racist and bigoted slander, such as claiming that he wasn't really born an American, or that he's a secret Muslim (there is no law against Muslims running for office), or that his church isn't a real Christian church. Criticizing crime or any other social ill is not wrong, save when "those people" are labeled as the sole cause. If people in the middle of the country don't like being labeled hayseeds and crackers by those of us living on the coasts (elites or not), then I dare say they shouldn't act like they are.
Would anyone really be upset with illegal immigration was coming from Canada, rather than brown people who speak a language other than English? While not everyone who opposes illegal immigration are racists, I don't know of a single white supremacist who isn't frothing at the mouth against immigration, legal or otherwise.
And sure, much of the British working class was for Brexit. But populist movements are often energized by bigotry, and in news interviews with the average Briton on the street, a whole lot of the reason why they voted to leave the EU had much to do with anti-immigration.


Immigration is a huge issue in the UK, it's a crowded island that has abandoned it's working class so how couldn't they be frustrated seeing their dwindling opportunities being undercut by new immigrants? There is a huge shortage of housing in the UK, it's basically impossible for anybody to buy a house and home ownership is the key to upward mobility. "The free movement of workers" kills the working class, an unlimited supply of labor produces a constant downward pressure wages, opportunity, and worker's rights. Working class people LOSE with globalism, only the very very rich benefit. It's not racist to be against immigration. Also the difference between Canada and Mexico is that Mexico is a third world country with a vast underclass with the huge concentration wealth at the very top while Canada is a 1st world one with equal or maybe higher standard of living, not everything is about race. Also many immigrants specifically from Mexico are nationalistic and consider the entire southwestern United States stolen territory, creating enclaves and segregating your culture doesn't help this country one bit. I believe that's called a fifth column. You like Teddy Roosevelt right? Well Teddy had it right with this quote

Teddy Roosevelt 1915 wrote:
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all … The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic … There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.


The US takes in more immigrants than the rest of the world combined and that's not even considering illegal immigrants who number somewhere between 10 and 30 million in this country. It is basically impossible to immigrate to most countries on this planet, we're one of the few but there is reasons why these countries don't accept immigrants beyond just bigotry. Multiculturalism and political correctness are destroying Western Civilization, I support the concept of the melting pot and national unity which is the very opposite of the policies we promote now.



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05 Jul 2016, 9:47 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.


Sure, it was a retweet. I just can't believe he didn't recognize what the star image was, especially since it had come off of a white supremacist website. And if he did know where it came from, then it was intended by him for a specific audience.


Again it is just a 6 point star rather than a Star of David and Trump probably gets tweeted at by millions of people every day. Getting celebrities to retweet offensive stuff is something of a trolling art btw, they do it all the time with purposely wrongly attributed quotes that are actually from someone like Adolf Hitler and all types of things. Trump doesn't even run his own twitter fwiw, he writes out his tweets and then a staffer does it. Manufactured controversy is all this is.


I might give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just a five pointed star without any association with Anti Semitism, were it not for the fact that the damn thing had come from a NeoNazi website. If Trump's people and not Trump himself were responsible for the F Up, then that person or persons should be fired.


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05 Jul 2016, 9:50 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.


Sure, it was a retweet. I just can't believe he didn't recognize what the star image was, especially since it had come off of a white supremacist website. And if he did know where it came from, then it was intended by him for a specific audience.


Again it is just a 6 point star rather than a Star of David and Trump probably gets tweeted at by millions of people every day. Getting celebrities to retweet offensive stuff is something of a trolling art btw, they do it all the time with purposely wrongly attributed quotes that are actually from someone like Adolf Hitler and all types of things. Trump doesn't even run his own twitter fwiw, he writes out his tweets and then a staffer does it. Manufactured controversy is all this is.


I might give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just a five pointed star without any association with Anti Semitism were it not for the fact that the damn thing had come from a NeoNazi website. If Trump's people and not Trump himself were responsible for the F Up, then that person or persons should be fired.


You say this but you don't think Hillary should be held accountable for jeopardizing national security and skirting open government laws with her private email server, just an honest mistake. One is not like the other, I don't think Trumps twitter staffers are vetting ever twitter user that tweets at them. It's literally McCarthyism.



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05 Jul 2016, 10:00 pm

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Well, you shouldn't be critical of the President if that criticism entails obvious racist and bigoted slander, such as claiming that he wasn't really born an American, or that he's a secret Muslim (there is no law against Muslims running for office), or that his church isn't a real Christian church. Criticizing crime or any other social ill is not wrong, save when "those people" are labeled as the sole cause. If people in the middle of the country don't like being labeled hayseeds and crackers by those of us living on the coasts (elites or not), then I dare say they shouldn't act like they are.
Would anyone really be upset with illegal immigration was coming from Canada, rather than brown people who speak a language other than English? While not everyone who opposes illegal immigration are racists, I don't know of a single white supremacist who isn't frothing at the mouth against immigration, legal or otherwise.
And sure, much of the British working class was for Brexit. But populist movements are often energized by bigotry, and in news interviews with the average Briton on the street, a whole lot of the reason why they voted to leave the EU had much to do with anti-immigration.


Immigration is a huge issue in the UK, it's a crowded island that has abandoned it's working class so how couldn't they be frustrated seeing their dwindling opportunities being undercut by new immigrants? There is a huge shortage of housing in the UK, it's basically impossible for anybody to buy a house and home ownership is the key to upward mobility. "The free movement of workers" kills the working class, an unlimited supply of labor produces a constant downward pressure wages, opportunity, and worker's rights. Working class people LOSE with globalism, only the very very rich benefit. It's not racist to be against immigration. Also the difference between Canada and Mexico is that Mexico is a third world country with a vast underclass with the huge concentration wealth at the very top while Canada is a 1st world one with equal or maybe higher standard of living, not everything is about race. Also many immigrants specifically from Mexico are nationalistic and consider the entire southwestern United States stolen territory, creating enclaves and segregating your culture doesn't help this country one bit. I believe that's called a fifth column. You like Teddy Roosevelt right? Well Teddy had it right with this quote

Teddy Roosevelt 1915 wrote:
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all … The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic … There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.


The US takes in more immigrants than the rest of the world combined and that's not even considering illegal immigrants who number somewhere between 10 and 30 million in this country. It is basically impossible to immigrate to most countries on this planet, we're one of the few but there is reasons why these countries don't accept immigrants beyond just bigotry. Multiculturalism and political correctness are destroying Western Civilization, I support the concept of the melting pot and national unity which is the very opposite of the policies we promote now.


I just can't see nativism as something defendable. Your and my ancestors at one time or another had been described as alien invaders, setting up ethnic enclaves, and not speaking English. Yet, you and I are true blue Americans today, regardless of who our forebears were. Today's immigrants - legal and illegal - will sire the future's true blue Americans.
And while I greatly admire T.R. as a forward seeing statesman and social reformer, he proved to be inconsistent with America's entry into WWI, when he stated that "German Americans" should take a loyalty oath. In other words, he ended up hyphenating those Americans who were either from Germany, or whose families were. My family, like other Americans of German extraction, took a whole lot of sh*t for their national origin in those days, and Roosevelt's taking part in that is a black mark against him, in my book.


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Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.


Do you understand what a retweet is? You're more of a conspiracy theorist than me if you believe Trump is running this a campaign of 'coded' secret racism to activate the vast hidden White Supremacist bloc. What you are doing is essentially McCarthyism.


Sure, it was a retweet. I just can't believe he didn't recognize what the star image was, especially since it had come off of a white supremacist website. And if he did know where it came from, then it was intended by him for a specific audience.


Again it is just a 6 point star rather than a Star of David and Trump probably gets tweeted at by millions of people every day. Getting celebrities to retweet offensive stuff is something of a trolling art btw, they do it all the time with purposely wrongly attributed quotes that are actually from someone like Adolf Hitler and all types of things. Trump doesn't even run his own twitter fwiw, he writes out his tweets and then a staffer does it. Manufactured controversy is all this is.


I might give you the benefit of the doubt that it was just a five pointed star without any association with Anti Semitism were it not for the fact that the damn thing had come from a NeoNazi website. If Trump's people and not Trump himself were responsible for the F Up, then that person or persons should be fired.


You say this but you don't think Hillary should be held accountable for jeopardizing national security and skirting open government laws with her private email server, just an honest mistake. One is not like the other, I don't think Trumps twitter staffers are vetting ever twitter user that tweets at them. It's literally McCarthyism.


I think it was a boneheaded stunt on her part, but the FBI cleared her, and the federal prosecutor, after verbally savaging her, said no prosecution would proceed. Take it up with the feds.


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05 Jul 2016, 10:08 pm

Would we be true Americans today without those guiding ideas? German Americans are good example since Wisconsin was essentially an almost entirely German state at one time, my grandfather didn't even speak English until he was 5 years old and that was because they made a law that schools in Wisconsin had to teach in English rather than German even tho there were many German only speaking communities. Imagine the implications of allowing this foreign nationalism to have to progressed to this day, it would be a different country. Imagine the implication on WWII if the German identity promoted and endorsed up to that. Above all else I think national harmony should be the top consideration when it comes to immigration, not the bottom line for the 1%.



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06 Jul 2016, 12:03 am

Jacoby wrote:
Would we be true Americans today without those guiding ideas? German Americans are good example since Wisconsin was essentially an almost entirely German state at one time, my grandfather didn't even speak English until he was 5 years old and that was because they made a law that schools in Wisconsin had to teach in English rather than German even tho there were many German only speaking communities. Imagine the implications of allowing this foreign nationalism to have to progressed to this day, it would be a different country. Imagine the implication on WWII if the German identity promoted and endorsed up to that. Above all else I think national harmony should be the top consideration when it comes to immigration, not the bottom line for the 1%.


You have no disagreement from me on that point. What I'm getting at is that those foreigners will in time become Americans. Incidentally, from my family's arrival to America in the 19th century, to my dad's generation, everyone were bilingual, speaking English and German..


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06 Jul 2016, 6:15 am

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The flack he's getting is stupid. People are being stupid.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but people will say pretty much anything to trash the guy.


Again, the pic was originally posted on a Neo-Nazi website. I have to think Trump is either sending signals to white supremacists that he's a fellow traveler (whether he really believes in any of that or not), or he's just really dumb and doesn't get that racist ideology is evil.



That's how it was reported in the major paper here (the signal sending theory).