Racism is on a spectrum

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13 Sep 2016, 2:17 pm

Excellent article! And we can see examples of white attitudes and reactions to the subject right here on this forum. They want racism to be binary, either you are a mean racist, or a nice non-racist. It's a way to deflect attention away from the uncomfortable fact that we live in and proliferate a racist society. I like the conclusion, that it's up to white people to educate themselves, no one is going to hand you the tools to figure out where you fit in this picture. And most white people won't do it.

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13 Sep 2016, 2:35 pm

You shouldn't take anything the Huffington Post has to say remotely seriously.

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I imagine their idea of "racism" is something along similar lines to their idea that this was somehow a good thing.

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13 Sep 2016, 2:40 pm

Case in point, attack the messenger.

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13 Sep 2016, 2:50 pm

AspE wrote:

Case in point, attack the messenger.

You're damn right! When the messenger talks nothing but BS, and agenda-driven BS at that, you'd be a fool to take anything that messenger had to say seriously.

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13 Sep 2016, 2:57 pm

AspE wrote:

And we can see examples of white attitudes and reactions to the subject right here on this forum.

This sentence is an example of racism.

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13 Sep 2016, 3:28 pm

adifferentname wrote:

AspE wrote:

And we can see examples of white attitudes and reactions to the subject right here on this forum.

This sentence is an example of racism.

Another example of a defensive reaction, meant to deflect criticism that might have to be taken too personally. It's white people's attitudes that are in question here, as they are the dominant race. Also, my statement was totally neutral on whether white people are inherently superior or inferior, thus it's not racism.

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13 Sep 2016, 3:30 pm

Drake wrote:

AspE wrote:

Case in point, attack the messenger.

You're damn right! When the messenger talks nothing but BS, and agenda-driven BS at that, you'd be a fool to take anything that messenger had to say seriously.

Racism isn't BS. What's wrong with an anti-racist agenda? I have yet to read any legitimate criticism of this article.

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13 Sep 2016, 3:51 pm

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Another example of a defensive reaction, meant to deflect criticism that might have to be taken too personally.

The article specifies North American white attitudes. Regardless of how idiotic the article it is, to extrapolate from it and then apply its reasoning and terminology to a white British person would also be racist.

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It's white people's attitudes that are in question here, as they are the dominant race.

You're holding white people to a different standard, hence what you said is racist, as is the above quote.

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13 Sep 2016, 4:40 pm

I typed "Huffington Post is " into Google, and it gave me 5 suggestions: BS, trash, garbage, not news and a tabloid. :lol:

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13 Sep 2016, 4:41 pm

adifferentname wrote:

AspE wrote:

Another example of a defensive reaction, meant to deflect criticism that might have to be taken too personally.

I'd say it applies to racism everywhere.

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It's white people's attitudes that are in question here, as they are the dominant race.

You're holding white people to a different standard, hence what you said is racist, as is the above quote.

No, it's the same standard of education and awareness. What do you think racism is precisely?

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13 Sep 2016, 4:42 pm

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I typed "Huffington Post is " into Google, and it gave me 5 suggestions: BS, trash, garbage, not news and a tabloid. :lol:

Attack the messenger again. I bet you didn't even read it. Yes, Huffington Post is a lot of clickbait, but specific articles are independent of it's worth as a website. Victor Stenger used to post there, a prominent physicist.

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13 Sep 2016, 4:57 pm

If that is the case, than it applies to everyone not just white people...but I don't really think everyone is 'just a little bit racist.'

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13 Sep 2016, 5:06 pm

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If that is the case, than it applies to everyone not just white people...but I don't really think everyone is 'just a little bit racist.'

Yes, it does apply to everyone. When the entire culture is racist on some level, you can't escape it.

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13 Sep 2016, 5:06 pm

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So a white person stating they are not a racist and thus should not themselves be held responsible for other peoples racism, is deflecting we live in a society where racism still exists on various levels? Can't one not believe themselves to be racist at all and still acknowledge it is a problem? Also its not just a problem in white majority societies.

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13 Sep 2016, 5:07 pm

AspE wrote:

I'd say it applies to racism everywhere.

You'd say what applies to racism everywhere?

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It's white people's attitudes that are in question here, as they are the dominant race.

You're holding white people to a different standard, hence what you said is racist, as is the above quote.

No, it's the same standard of education and awareness.

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What do you think racism is precisely?

You wouldn't have denied making racist statements if you didn't agree with my definition. Try again.

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I don't really think everyone is 'just a little bit racist.'

Unless you apply the strict definition of racism, I completely agree.

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13 Sep 2016, 5:07 pm

AspE wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

If that is the case, than it applies to everyone not just white people...but I don't really think everyone is 'just a little bit racist.'

Yes, it does apply to everyone. When the entire culture is racist on some level, you can't escape it.

Still doesn't mean every individual person is racist.

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