As being raised Christian, I try not to hate God
Am I the only Christian or only person on the planet who has these beliefs?
I think Christians struggle with why bad things happen to good people. God doesn't destroy the world - he instead leaves it for those who had followed HIM. They kept his commandments. But most importantly, they believed that in his death and resurrection that their sins were forgiven.
Being a Christian means being able to admit you're not perfect and accept God's grace in your life that his death on the cross is payment for your sins. You are supposed to repent and turn away from the sins; it doesn't mean you won't stumble but it means that you legitimately attempt to turn away from them.
God loves you and wants you to believe in HIM. When you have accepted him into your life and than you sin and confess your sins (whether thru someone else such as a priest or another Christian or directly in solitary prayer), he weeps (cries) for you. He cried not because of the pain on the Cross but the pain of everyone's sins. He took the weight of all our sins and carried our burdens. He loves us and wants us to join him for eternity.
Bad things happen. People die of cancer, people die in accidents, wrong people kill others, etc but God loves us all. In fact, he wants those who commit such crimes to change their ways and have a true conversion. He wants people to repent of the sins they committed and to truly humble themselves.
The 7 deadly sins are: pride, greed, sloth, gluttony, anger, lust, and wrath. They lead to the wrong behaviors whenever you commit one of these.
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I think some very-cushy, self-helpy churches have neglected to teach us the story of Job and gold refined in a fire.
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
-- from Isaiah 45:7
Either, your church taught this, or it was a business interest.
Very few teach it.
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Interesting that you brought this up, Bill, since the Sunday School class I attend (when I don't do choir rehearsal on Sunday Morning, like this morning, since my ragweed allergies are kicking up a storm right now) just finished up a study on Luther, and this morning's discussion was the Bible study on the unity of the Church that was published in last month's Lutheran Witness.
Also, a friend of mine from college (we were in the same voice studio) sent me an article this morning via FaceBook on how big business co-opted the then liberal evangelical christians to do their bidding. I'll post the link
Once I find it.
If you actually volunteered at a church, you can hear business meetings going on, like it's no big secret.
It works the same way as the Youtube commentators, who thank a listener, for his donation, and discuss the requested talking point. I think news aggregaters and talk radio, and general interest television does the same thing.
There is Indian casino money and from fraternal organizations. Sometimes, 5-10 churches used the same buzzword, from a WCOC pamphlet.
Imagine watching all the credits you might see on Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers. Then, you'll figure out the message is just a bland psa.
Churches used to hide in tombs, for fear of the govt, an instrument of capital punishment being defeated in the cross.
I have known a missionary, who disappeared, abroad. We have imprisoned famous evangelists, who discussed civics. My advice to people, if they are not certain, is not to profess this faith, knowing that evil does exist in the world. If you don't take what I am saying for granted, you should not use the church as a social club.
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Interesting that you brought this up, Bill, since the Sunday School class I attend (when I don't do choir rehearsal on Sunday Morning, like this morning, since my ragweed allergies are kicking up a storm right now) just finished up a study on Luther, and this morning's discussion was the Bible study on the unity of the Church that was published in last month's Lutheran Witness.
Also, a friend of mine from college (we were in the same voice studio) sent me an article this morning via FaceBook on how big business co-opted the then liberal evangelical christians to do their bidding. I'll post the link
Once I find it.
Churches teaching the prosperity gospel, which seems to be a big thing with evangelicals these days, are these days putting ATM machines in their church buildings.
I am aware how the right wing of the American evangelical movement has a far too cozy relationship with economic conservatives, but I admit I've never heard of the religious left having such ties.
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I've been mad at God.
I've left the church.
I've written and asked why me.
I was not raise Christian.
I'm now active in small group at my church.
A leader/volunteer in small group
I love outreach Lord
David wrote and sang the blues to praise.
He played the harp
I play the harp also called harmonicas.
I suggest to start writing your book
Love and prayers
Brother me... ![]()
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God understands anger (even toward Him). Mortal life, after all, is about choices. We like our good choices and regret our bad choices. It is how we all adapt to our choices that matters.
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Interesting that you brought this up, Bill, since the Sunday School class I attend (when I don't do choir rehearsal on Sunday Morning, like this morning, since my ragweed allergies are kicking up a storm right now) just finished up a study on Luther, and this morning's discussion was the Bible study on the unity of the Church that was published in last month's Lutheran Witness.
Also, a friend of mine from college (we were in the same voice studio) sent me an article this morning via FaceBook on how big business co-opted the then liberal evangelical christians to do their bidding. I'll post the link
Once I find it.
Churches teaching the prosperity gospel, which seems to be a big thing with evangelicals these days, are these days putting ATM machines in their church buildings.
I am aware how the right wing of the American evangelical movement has a far too cozy relationship with economic conservatives, but I admit I've never heard of the religious left having such ties.
The articles I'm talking about is at www.thechristianleftblog.org. Take a look at the article "How The Powerful Delusion Took Over." I'm still trying to wrap my head around this article.
Kraichgauer
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Interesting that you brought this up, Bill, since the Sunday School class I attend (when I don't do choir rehearsal on Sunday Morning, like this morning, since my ragweed allergies are kicking up a storm right now) just finished up a study on Luther, and this morning's discussion was the Bible study on the unity of the Church that was published in last month's Lutheran Witness.
Also, a friend of mine from college (we were in the same voice studio) sent me an article this morning via FaceBook on how big business co-opted the then liberal evangelical christians to do their bidding. I'll post the link
Once I find it.
Churches teaching the prosperity gospel, which seems to be a big thing with evangelicals these days, are these days putting ATM machines in their church buildings.
I am aware how the right wing of the American evangelical movement has a far too cozy relationship with economic conservatives, but I admit I've never heard of the religious left having such ties.
The articles I'm talking about is at http://www.thechristianleftblog.org. Take a look at the article "How The Powerful Delusion Took Over." I'm still trying to wrap my head around this article.
Thanks for the link. That, and other articles, made interesting reading.
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How could someone raised as a christian "hate" God??? I gotta be honest and say I don't understand this concept. As far as what I know God works in mysterious ways sometimes. A few weeks ago an 18 year old from my church was shot dead coming out of a store in a not so savory area at 11 pm or so. It was speculated that he was visiting his father who lived in the area because he himself was from a safer neighbor but that's neither here nor there.
The point is that, this young man was really on fire for God. He went to went to the high school in that "not so savory" area and he had many friends that lived there. Many people came out to the funeral too, as well as the whole church who showed out, all his friends, and literally I would say half of the school. Long story short, because of his influence in there lives and furthermore as a result of his passing many people gave their hearts to christ that day. Its unfortunate that a young person who has barely started their life had to die for that to happen but he did a lot of witnessing and was very active in the church.
Another point to make is that God did give us free will so that way we can come on our own to follow him and his word.
Am I the only Christian or only person on the planet who has these beliefs?
There probably is a Real God, but It is nothing like the fairy tale cartoon drawn by the various religions. The Real God is probably beyond the comprehension of humans, so the priests, preachers, prophets, rabbis and immams have made up a cartoon that humans can comprehend.
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He does a great job of being both all-powerful and indifferent to human suffering. I don't hate something that doesn't exist, but I can understand how you could hate God if you think it's real. Even in the above example, he's killing some guy to get others to go to church!
It's pretty simple to come to the conclusion that the Abrahamic God must be evil. He allows evil to enable free will, so free will must be the greatest good. However, many exercises of free will apparently result in an eternity of punishment. This is logically absurd if we presume an omnipotent and omnibenevolent god. It is easy to hate such a being.
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