Donald's Wall

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There's easier ways to get yourself a room in federal prison.

True, but dismantling a ridiculous wall would've been worth it.

Won't stop it only delay a part of its contruction for few hours also walls are built with bricks but rebar and poured concrete

Poured concrete it expensive the transport long distances, meaning they rely on plants a certain distance from the border on both sides. There are "dry" spans and Mexico could not play ball.

The cartels have more resources and could work faster in breaching the barrier. US tax payer can't compete with that.

It's not as easy as you think, there reason they're carrying it thru the roughest terrain on the border is because other routes have been shutoff, back in the day they use to fly this stuff in thru the Caribbean or ship up the Pacific coast but they can't really do that anymore. Don't forget human traffickers, the coyotes, these people are responsible hundreds of deaths almost every year when they abandon people out in the middle of the desert. Shutting off this route would stop the deaths, it would stop the illegal border crossings. The most sophisticated cartels may try to change their tactics but we'll cross that bridge when it comes. I don't understand why people oppose securing our border, it's gotta happen so you folks will have to just deal with it.

Mending Wall


Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbour know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, "Good fences make good neighbours."
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
"Why do they make good neighbours? Isn't it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbours."

Robert Frost

'Nuff said.

Ten. Feet. Higher.

I don't care that much tbh. I'm talkign about the viability of the the wall, not the merit of securing the border which is a separate discussion.

You agree Trump's legacy will be based on this?

Policy wise, stopping the war on drugs will pay far more dividend than this wall, as will economic intensives and trade with Mexico.

You won't need to. The Mexicans are perfectly capable of turning any wall on their border into a multi-billion dollar 'Speed Bump'.

Furthermore, I'd like to add that this whole wall thing was dome once before in China to keep the Huns, Mongols, and other Nomadic groups from the north out. A guy named Temugin not only ignored the wall, but went on to invade China and found the Yuan Dynasty.

If the 'Great Wall of Mexico happens it will be a major waste of funds to no no avail. --Anybody ever have the cumpulsion to wipe their ass with the hundreds of billions of dollars that would be spent to make this wall a reality?

It won't cost anywhere close to hundreds of billions, Trump has put the price at $10 billion. Remission payments every year are more than double that, our trade deficit is more than double even that at $58 billion, there was trillions wasted in the middle east that have made us less safe and less free but a wall is impossible? You might not want it to be possible like how you might not have wanted it to be possible that Donald Trump to win the presidency but obviously that did not mesh with reality. $10B is easily financeable, it is easy to extract the payments from Mexico, logistically a structure of that stature should not be a significant challenge as you mentioned China built a Great Wall of their own quite a while ago.