Trump ditches "drain the swamp" phrase
btw
Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase "DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will always be trying to DTS.
and Newt apologized
https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status ... 2079237121
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His cabinet picks are good proof that he had zero intention to ever drain the swamp! The rich will get richer for at least 4 years. LGBQT community will be hurting a lot too- look up first amendment defense act. Plus net neutrality looks like it might be gutted too.
This is so sickening and frustrating! So many people were conned by Trump's lies. I can bet many Republicans will sit back and enjoy their riches while more laws happen that hurt everyone else!
At this point, I think the majority of Republicans in house and senate are cowards that likely wont impeach Trump, no matter what he does. This will be a horrible 4 years for USA I bet.
Wow----cry in your beer, much!!
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IMO, if there's a war between us and China, CHINA will be the one that starts it.
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IMO, if there's a war between us and China, CHINA will be the one that starts it.
Perhaps you should study some history.
The Gulf of Tonkin
http://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhist ... out-tonkin
Invading Afghanistan looking for Bin Laden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Af ... %80%932014)
Invading Iraq looking for WMDs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_ ... estruction
The sinking of the Maine
http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cav ... king-maine
"Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on Thursday downplayed the president-elect’s campaign promise to “drain the swamp” of lobbyists and ingratiating influence-peddlers in Washington, D.C.
“If you had to put them in a chronological order, drain the swamp is probably somewhere down at the bottom,” Lewandowski said of the refrain on “Fox & Friends,” adding that “what it’s really about is putting people back to work.”
“As opposed to getting tax reform done, making sure middle-class people have more jobs, making sure we’re renegotiating our bad trade deals, ensuring that we’re fixing ObamaCare,” the long-time aide and surrogate continued.
Trump denied the claims on Thursday, tweeting that his administration will “always be trying to” empty the swamp.
Lewandowski announced on Wednesday that he was opening a lobbying firm alongside former Trump campaign adviser Barry Bennett, engaging in the same kind of work the president-elect and his team frequently railed against.
“If I can be a resource to corporations who want to get a fast answer from the government and not a long maybe, I think that’s a value add that I can potentially provide, so look, that’s what the goal is here,” he said. “The goal isn’t to go and become a swamp creature or to become a lobbyist. I’m not going to be a lobbyist. It’s not going to happen.”
The about-turn came on Wednesday, when former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said he was told the president-elect had soured on the refrain.
“He now says it was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore,” Gingrich said on NPR’s “Morning Edition,” after “somebody wrote back and said they were tired of hearing this stuff.”
The former House speaker backtracked abruptly on Thursday, however, stating he had “mischaracterized” Trump’s attitude. “He intends to drain the swamp,” Gingrich said.
“Drain the swamp” wouldn’t be the first chant to lose favor with Trump now that he has won the election. Earlier this month, the president-elect said he no longer cared about prosecuting Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton despite the popular “lock her up” refrain heard at his campaign rallies.
“That plays great before the election ― now we don’t care, right?” he said."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cor ... ndrf869a4i
The only way Trump is draining the swamp is by replacing it with equally bad people (if not worse!). The rich elite being in charge will not help many average Americans! They certainly wont be helping us with autism I would bet.
I just read an article about how Trump owes 300 million to a German bank (this is on top of many other debts Trump has). Smart business people don't owe huge amounts of money and refuse to pay them back. Trump has all the excuses but no solutions. Sickening.
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but to il trumpolini's supporters he can do no wrong, and when the GOP inevitably, under the new administration's cover, starts officially screwing over the 99% [and especially the working class - among other things, raising their taxes in a thousand and one ways to pay for yet more tax cut giveaways for the 1%, taking away health care subsidies yet still requiring mandatory insurance coverage AND increased IRS penalties for non-compliance, mark my words YES THIS WILL HAPPEN!], his supporters will continue to blame democrats, as they have been trained to do. remember, in the GOP's own words, "repeal and delay" (indefinitely) is the GOP's motto for dealing with our dysfunctional health care system's problems, just make it unaffordable for most people to access healthcare, et voila! problem "solved."
I'm guessing a tiny amount of Trump voters are rich themselves. Otherwise it just feels like the supporters are just hanging by any words Trump says.
I strongly feel many Trump supporters are hypocrites and just refuse to admit any wrongdoing (just like Trump).
What differently are you expecting him to do as president-elect? I feel like a lot of Trump's views were misrepresented so what you think was promised probably wasn't, I was always very aware of this all being part of Trump's negotiation tactics and those negotiations started a year and a half ago. The saying goes now you took him literally but not seriously and his supporters take him seriously but not literally. Trump said all along he was going appoint successful people from the business world, Trump himself is a businessman which was part of his appeal as being a non-politician. The place I watched most carefully was in terms of foreign policy and Trump has shown a stark departure from the neoconservatism of the Bush/Obama/Clinton years, all three of those clans going way back with the CIA I should add. They're talking about a trillion dollars in infrastructure which is something I think most Democrats would enthusiastically support, Trump has shown himself to be a moderate and pragmatist yet you still act as if he's Hitler. Nothing on earth will convince me that Trump was a worse pick than Hillary, I sincerely doubt you'd be carrying own if she had cheated her way to the White House.
The real question is why you trust these business leaders to lead for all Americans, not just the wealthy? Also, the rhetoric complaining about politicians being corrupt or "paid off" doesn't make a lot of sense when you just appoint the people who do the paying (Betsy Devos for example) directly.
If I were making the decisions then my cabinet picks would probably be different, there are a lot of people who Trump is nice to and has gotten support from that I don't like but he's also chosen people that I do like as well. I think Rex Tillerson who will get the most flack is by far the best choice for Secretary of State of the candidates that we knew for the position, I think his relationship with Putin and other world leaders is a good thing. That along with the other foreign policy and national security picks are probably what I've watched the closest, while the surveillance state is a concerning development it could of been worse but I am confident in there being a marked turn in how we interact with other countries and how we go after our enemies. ISIS must be destroyed, I feel cooperation with Russia is a tremendous opportunity to forge better bilateral relations and ultimately necessary to have any hope of success. I think China has a role that needs to be negotiated, I do not think they are any more supportive of Islamic extremism and the more we can work together against that the more harmonious relations will be in general.
It's not possible to make everyone happy and I don't think people that don't support Trump will have been happy with whoever he picked so it's a no win situation for him in that regard. I'm not going to get 100% of what I want nor did I expect it, better 75% than zero and Trump represents a major departure on some of issues that interest me the most that have not changed regardless of the party in power for decades. You can't look at Trump in a vacuum, when I took stock of the other players Trump was the only rational and viable choice to bring about real change to the political system.
Sweet!
All of my earlier comments to which you objected, please do not insist on nailing me into those positions! I did not really mean any of them.
Here is your fallacy
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
This a message board, where people discuss issues. You have been making some pretty bold political/social statements, but then not supporting them very well.
On facial recognition thread, your post came right after mine. Did I post anything there?
Once again
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
Calling DC a swamp isn't accurate either,swamps are wonderful places,full of all sorts of diverse life.A better comparison would be toxic waste dump.
LOL well said.
