Conservatism is anti-science

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We're not anti-science we just don't automatically drop to our knees, mouths open, when someone comes along wielding a scientific study. We know about the reproducibility crisis. We know about number fiddling and p-hacking. We know about activist science. We are not the gullible fools here.

I agree that banning is a bit of a bad call, it already is part of a game that from what I understand happens in USA when certain groups try and make it harder for minorities to vote by requiring IDs that can be difficult for poorer groups to be able to get, and make the act of voting an inconvenience by not making it a national holiday along with fewer voting polls for said groups. Followed up by the things like purging voter registers.

Yet still the case is that the uneducated, that are not even interested in educating themselves, can be tricked by grifters into voting against their own interest that help the mega rich, sold on the dream they might be rich one day. The best you can do is try and help them understand that some people need the help of government programs, and that there are people who have experienced that are not theirs, and deserve equal rights, and polices to try and remove the bias.

You even get people that say those who have criminal records, for whatever reason, do not deserve a vote, and lose that right even after they served their time.

While some conservatives are anti-science, the key word is *some*.

Germany and Japan are two of the most innovative countries around, both have center-right leaders (Angela Merkel and Shinzo Abe, respectively).

Not every conservative is of the Trump-Putin-Erdogan-Bolsonaro type.

Conservatism is a political ideology. In it's purest form it's not pro-science or anti-science, it's just political.

That being said I've met some conservatives who were very much anti-science.

I often think 'refusal to participate' is viewed as anti-science. My grandmother had cancer, she sought a diagnosis and listened to her treatment options. In the end, she chose no treatment. She knew treatment could lengthen her life, she just opted out. That didn't mean she was anti-science.

I went to DBT therapy yesterday. On my way out there was an old guy with a white beard, sporting a Bernie Sanders shirt, he said, "I don't know why I gotta go see one of them nut doctors?!" This guy was a red neck if ever I saw one. Yet, he held socialist beliefs. And wanted nothing to do with a psychiatrist. And don't go saying he got the shirt out of a dumpster and wore it because he had nothing else. No self respecting conservative Southerner would be caught dead in a Bernie Sanders shirt...

You're viewing everyone from your lens, TIP. And, it's what we do. But, you are always dealing in absolutes.

I feel like it depends on the "permanent illness."

If one has advanced cancer, and is in constant pain because of it....then I might feel like euthanasia is the way to go.

Somehow this reminds me of people like Seth MacFarlane, creator of overrated shows like Family Guy, claiming that the world would be so much happier and peaceful if it was forced to embrace atheism, combined with the irony of how the USSR actually put hundreds of thousands of Christians (and I think Jews too) to death under state-enforced atheism.

I've met plenty of anti-science liberals.

Most of the anti-GMO, pro-organic, essential oil bullplop fans, tend to be liberals. Also, I've seen BOTH sides using emotion-based arguments to support various positions.

And, despite the political divide in my country, I tend to think of liberal verses conservative beliefs as being useful as "checks and balances" on each other.

Some of my beliefs that get me in trouble with my fellow liberals:

1. Throwing government money at a problem is not always the answer (see student college loans).

2. There's a limit to how much the government can regulate things without sending in armed troops.

3. You don't need 300+ labels to describe yourself. Most people don't know (or care) what you "special labels" mean, and, after a certain point, wanting to describe yourself in excruciating detail is narcissistic.

4. Policies on transgendered individuals in public spaces such as bathrooms and changing areas should not be decided by sweeping government policies, but instead should be left to individual businesses and common sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FMkSgMfQ1I

It's Worth Noting That Science is a Tool That Attempts to Systemize Objective Reality into Order We Can Understand;
It's Worth Noting That Religion is a Tool That Attempts to Systemize Subjective Reality into Order We Can Understand;
It's Worth noting That in General, Neuroscience Suggests that We all Hallucinate our Realities; Some More Black and
White; And Some More Colorful; as Where i LiVE iN the Panhandle of Florida; The 'Face Palms' Grow Taller than Ever;
at least to me.

Politics as usual Morphs into Politics; if one tries to Put a Label on it, sadly one gets lost in the Reality of it.

There is nothing Conservative About 13,000 Lies.

There is nothing Conservative About Wasting Energy over Vain Concerns.

There is nothing Conservative About Destroying 1 in 8 Species
of Life in an Ecosystem of Home where all the Interconnected parts of Life are Integral to our Very Survival.

In General, From a Biological Perspective, 'Conservative Leaning Folks' Have Lower Libido's; are more Prone to
Disgust; and Resistant To Change in Ways of more Open Mind and Body Thinking; Feeling; and Sensing the World;
At Least From a Perspective of Science; but of course Human Nature has many moving Parts; Attempting to Label
it in Black and White Terms is not unlike Attempting to Label a 'Hallucination' in Text where a Hallucination
is so much more than Verbal Think.

Republicans, as far as 'the Party' goes are acting in a way that is NOT conservative at all; unless one believes
Gas Lighting and Believing in it, is a Conservative Way of Viewing and Acting Life Experiences. It's about
as 'Post Modern' as Life Will Get to Live a Huge Lie; It's Just another Color of 'Purple Haze'; that folks
Fail to smell in Gaslit ways.

Rigidity of Conservatism is Heir Apparent in the Systemizing Mind.

Fluidity of Liberalism is Heir Apparent in the Artistic Soul that Systemizes what is Larger than the 'Objective World';

Yin and Yang; Nothing New Under the 'Human Sun' that continues to Shine All over, Generally Alike, DarK Thru LiGHT;

There Are Boats in Harbors; Some Venture Out into Open Seas of Ravaging Storms That Bring Huge Waves;

These Boats Have Sails and Anchors;

'Whole Boats' Have Both;

'Half Boats' Need Each Other to Balance Each Other Out;

Generally Speaking, 'Whole Boats' Are 'Whole' Enough to Understand The 'Entire Boat Condition' and Forgive it too;

"Love For Giving Thanks Giving For Love"; Honestly, it exists; You can even Google "it" and Find it, in Quotes; hehe..

Haha; i'm about as 'Liberal and Conservative' as 'they' get; My Best Friends online at least consist of an Historically
Older Female Moderator From 'this place' with a Hugely Systemizing Mind; A Jain Female Indian Group Manager Auditor
From the United Arab Emirates, currently; The Wife of a Southern Baptist Pastor; And A Widowed Very Devout
Egyptian Mother of Two Children Who Teaches Arabic to High School Females; There is Also Another Devout
Muslim Female from Pakistan; Who not too long ago entered into an arranged Marriage; that reminds me to say
hello to her; i structure that Routine Friendship activity on the 7th of every Month, now that she has become Married.

Wow! That's 5 Close Intimate Friends; at Least as Avatars online; quite an accomplishment for me at least and that's
for 'Damned' sure; True though i only hear from one of them Twice a year; Shouldn't be Hard to guess which one; hehe..

i've Danced 12,360 Miles in Public close to half the Distance Around the Globe at the Equator in the Last 75 Months
along with a Longest Long Form Poem 'Bible' at 7.5 Million Words; In the Last 42 Months, i've Completed 5 Million
Words Celebrating that Featnote and Milestone as i arrived at that Point Yesterday; with what i also Name as
"Nether Land Bible 2017", Child of that 7.5 Million Word "SonG oF mY SoUL" Longer Effort. "Nether Land Bible
2017" has 6 Subtitled Long Form Poem 'Bibles' as Yes it is literally 6 times the Size of the Old King James
Sized Bible as on average i knock one of those out of the Free Verse Write of Poetry Every 7 Months on Average now.
Just Proof that i Do Liberal Stuff out of the box; and yes My Sister is Diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome too;
met one person on the Spectrum; met only one; true, i was more of a 'Nerd' than 'Sheldon Cooper' when Young.
Now i'm literally Famous for the Public Dance Where i live; Acquaintances but not really Intimate Friends who tend
to hug and high-5 me everywhere i go now; Even Little Children Roll Down their Car Windows i've never seen
before and Wave And Yell Bye to me after me and my Wife Leaves Walmart in the Parking Lot after a Free
Store Dance of 2 or 3 Marathon Hours on Public Display for the Meditative Movement it provides as
i literally Have a 'Stimming' Prescription From my Psychiatrist as Science Shows Moving Meditation
is Effective in Regulating Emotions and Integrating Senses; the only Real Remedy there is
for Asperger's Syndrome is Regulating Emotions according to 'Tony Atwood'; Asperger's Guru.
Note: this is a Monologue; Note: a 7.5 Million Word Bible Poem is too; Note: the Ghost Writers/Scribes who are
Responsible for 'the Old Bible' probably were somewhere on a mix of a spectrum of Asperger's and Bi-polar too;
"Perfect Storm" of Balancing Out "Low Levels of Latent Inhibition" in Autotelic Flow of Transient Hypo-Frontality;
in other Words, a "Perfect Mix" of Yin and Yang; Art and Reason; Creativity mixed With Systemizing Mixing Science Mind and Body Balance too. Note: "Perfect" is figurative Language in this Context As the Only Perfect God or Human Will be a Frigging Machine as long as it doesn't 'rust out' or have 'bugs' so true even Machines are not Perfect Literally speaking
Nothing is Perfect; yes, Before Something (God) Happened; but i digress; back to the original story about Friends too:

The Most Liberal one is the Southern Baptist Pastor's Wife; She Totally Supports Trump; Generally Speaking,
i am too Liberal to Have Liberal Friends; i easily go everywhere at ease; in this way, 'Liberal' generally is still 'Conservative';
A 'Truly Liberal Person' has no Problem Getting along with Conservative Folks; they understand the Differences and come
to accept them as just another Part of Human Nature; More Specifically, it is Literally and Figuratively Impossible to put
me in any Category or Label; Not everyone enjoys life this way; that is totally understandable too; at least to me;
my Wife Tells me i am something but she is not sure what; i find this to be the Greatest Compliment a Husband
like me will hear.

Remember 'Class'; We Hallucinate our Realities; accept What Is and Sail on and don't just pass by
the other Ships in Dark of Day or Night of Light; i Woke up in the 'Twilight Zone' As Usual
With 'a Leader' of the Free World insisting that People Flush their Toilets 10 to 15 times; only
Likely 'Dating' Himself with the Size of what He likely leaves Behind in the Morning, as Usual Rap with a C;
His Answer; Turn The Water Pressure Up; Doesn't Matter if 'the whole thing Blows Up. Quickly, i looked to
the Source of the Morning News and Found the Parody Reality Continues to Grow Even Taller As Face Palms
Reach for the Sun
just
out
of Grasp always;
Yes, Sadly too and in other Ways Happy!; That's Life;
This Huuuge Hallucination We continue to Co-Create.
As 'Mr. Toad' (Neo) Might Say; Yes, Ride the Wave Audaciously
so until You fall off and can't get it back up; whichever comes first.