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23 Nov 2007, 11:19 pm

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Honestly, before 9/11 was there such a political divide? Did people so readily ignore basic facts?

Yes, and they have been since practically the 50's.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:20 pm

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You know why libs and conservatives can't ever agree on basic truths? Because you've been conditioned to avoid any ultimate truth that might alienate you from your "clique". If the truth is not supported by Christian fanaticism, the right wingers will ignore it. If the truth is not supported by PC fanaticism, the left wing will ignore it. This is WILLFUL ignorance. People have been dummied down by reality TV and Mtv and CNN and C Span and the media to the point where theyr too stupid to have any since of morality without some corn-fed frame work to guide them. Often times these corn-fed frame works are highly immoral, even though their followers (on both sides) will vehemently defend their frame work as the measuring stick of morality.
This kind of indoctrination is what will shephard the masses like sheep to their slaughter. This is why the big business tycoons and the NWO refer to the common people as "the profane" and they laugh at the commoner and make fun of the commoner for being too easily brainwashed to think logically on their own. I hate to say it but the ruling elite do have one thing, intelligence.

Please, speak for yourself.

This right here proves your ignorance, and your immaturity. You've obviously never mentally graduated from high school, your still playing the cliques.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:21 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Honestly, before 9/11 was there such a political divide? Did people so readily ignore basic facts?

Yes, and they have been since practically the 50's.

Not to the point where you had rednecks vehemently fighting for an exclusively christian government that would alienate over half the nation, and hippie vegans advocating a lawless pipe dream.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:22 pm

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This right here proves your ignorance, and your immaturity. You've obviously never mentally graduated from high school, your still playing the cliques.

No, just that when someone comes by presenting their opinion with as much arrogance and ignorance as you are right now - its hardly worth wasting my breath. If you wanted to have a debate then do that - don't tell two whole groups of people who they are and why they are who they are when you've probably never met any of us.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:22 pm

Now your called "unpatriotic" for PROTESTING, the most patriotic duty the american citizen can take up.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:23 pm

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This right here proves your ignorance, and your immaturity. You've obviously never mentally graduated from high school, your still playing the cliques.

I have met you, a thousans times, your still coming off the assembly line in droves.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:24 pm

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Honestly, before 9/11 was there such a political divide? Did people so readily ignore basic facts?

Yes, and they have been since practically the 50's.

Not to the point where you had rednecks vehemently fighting for an exclusively christian government that would alienate over half the nation, and hippie vegans advocating a lawless pipe dream.

Yep, I really think you need to get a good book on recent history, though I'd go way back before even the 1960's, Vietnam, The Cold War, and all that and even take a look at politics and how it was when our country was founded. Seems like the happy little picture that the gradeschool history text books gave you have you a little confused about the nature of our world still.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:24 pm

It's called indoctrination.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:25 pm

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I have met you, a thousans times, your still coming off the assembly line in droves.

Hehehe, dude, you only see what you want to see. Keep telling yourself that as long as it makes you feel like your something better but just keep it to yourself - talking s--- tends to be frowned upon in most places, here no less.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:27 pm

snake, I wonder how many of those rules have you broken already.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:29 pm

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I think #5 will be something that people will have a huge problem, part of the major difference in liberals and conservatives is that they can't agree on the most fundamental precepts of the world around them. I'd just say debate tactfully and if someone has a divergent view of a fundamental truth that they should still obey the same rules (and since there's no clear majority I think that applies to us all).

Another thing, people need to avoid 'getting offended'. Getting offended in a debate tends to just show that your hearing an opinion you disagree with and if you let that overshadow everything your really showing that your way of seeing it is the only way your prepared to see it - and at that point your better off just getting out of it and standing on the sideline or just finding another topic that doesn't get you as riled up.

I know you're frustrated so I hesitate to say this because I think you'll just be angry, but you are being very arrogant. It sounds like you think anyone who doesn't agree with you is ignorant. Also, I think you may be perceiving more fundamentalism than is out there, not that it isn't out there, because you are labeling people before you even listen to them.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:29 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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techstepgenr8tion wrote:

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Honestly, before 9/11 was there such a political divide? Did people so readily ignore basic facts?

Yes, and they have been since practically the 50's.

Not to the point where you had rednecks vehemently fighting for an exclusively christian government that would alienate over half the nation, and hippie vegans advocating a lawless pipe dream.

Well then the nature of our world is that people are too stupid to compromise, or to find the bottom line in issues of civil rights and societal survival. Here you've got people on the left wanting to let any old person who wants to walk into america undocumented and unknown, reguardless of the drain it causes on our resources or on our wages, and on the other side you've got theocrats.
On one side you've got ret*ds who don't understand that without the 2nd amendment we will fall to tyranny, on the other side you've got idiots who are looking for an excuse to be a racist bigot.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:30 pm

Every bad decision has consequences.

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23 Nov 2007, 11:31 pm

Ignoring ultimate bottom line truths will lead to bad consequences. What is so hard to understand about that?

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23 Nov 2007, 11:31 pm

I mean when will people learn to accept an idea on it's merit, no who presents it?