Reincarnation

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Taboos that make criticizing religious beliefs considered "hateful" and "insulting" are just that, taboos with no reason behind them. there is no objective reason for someone to be offended by my statement except for the fact that I violated the taboo.

Vendantists would argue your accusation of reincarnation being dualistic crap and BS (if I understood this statement correctly, note that I have a little brain due to my belief in a Creator).

But then again, religion isn't scientific or logical that you should waste a minute to read about it. It is better to live in the dark ages than to embrace enlightenment. Or do I have it the other way around?

An astrologist I know once told me that by knowing how to read someone's chart, and the position of the stars in this life could tell them how many lives before this one someone had lived, where they (the different lives) had been lived, what you were supposed to have learned etc. He's extremely good at this chosen profession, so I think that info is pretty trustworthy. I don't have to pay to ask him questions or have him look at my chart, and he's frugal so he wouldn't bother saying something that wasn't true (a waste of his time and breath).

He said that I had been incarnated first (i think he said>)around 1300s. One or two of my cousins are the same. I notice semblances in the way that they act and the way that I act about certain things. They aren't AS though. My friends (mostly older people) seem to know about how this world works in general, although some of them do seem to need to stop acting like children (I don't socialize with those people much, but they are in the same group of friends ).

Hope that made sense.


Anyways, I get deja vu symptoms a lot. I guess it can be like having past-life dreams. It is uncanny, and when you're little it can scare the s**t out of you. It's more like a backwards premonition. Like I'll get deja vu, and I know that something big in my life is going to happen (usually bad, I got those up to 3 yrs before my mom died and they built up in extremity until she did die, they stopped directly afterward, I get them sometimes now, but they aren't all about the same thing, and they stop and start; they aren't almost constant). I won't actually have a "vision" of what is going to happen, just a feeling in my stomach like when you're on a swing going really high and when you start to come down you get that feeling in your stomach. It scares me, cause that usually means something bad is going to happen and I usually say to myself "what is it this time??! !" I can sometimes remember where the thought originated.

The last time I had one was a couple of weeks ago when I was at work and I stopped and was looking at what I was doing, thinking about it and trying to see if I couldn't figure out what was going to happen this time. I kinda had this feeling like I had created that moment in life when I was younger and I remember sitting in a car thinking about what I was doing at that moment. I don't know what that's about, so I don't dwell on it (although its happened before). It happened once just before I went to sleep and then a few years later I had a memory of that before I went to sleep and it was like I was creating my future.

When I was younger I thought I was going insane.

I had moved my bedroom around and then flipped out and my parents couldn't figure out what was wrong. I remembered the shelves being in the same position that I had just moved them into, except it was like a feeling. I got that feeling in my stomach again and started crying uncontrollably and I was trying to tell them that something really bad was going to happen, it was the way the room was that triggered it. I ended up cutting myself over it a few times. I got put on anti-depressants after my mom passed away, and that keeps me level, and I don't get those feeling as much.

We moved pretty soon after that and my mom passed away. My mom did most of the moving herself and had a heart attack. Guess that was why....I usually explain it like this "my room was in the same position as I remember it was going to be before we moved, and after we moved my mom died of a heart attack".


Hope that makes sense too. I try not to think about the whys and hows of this chit, but I use it to either try to figure out what happens next or very generally what will happen (this last time I got into a fight with one of my coworkers right after that, and then the manager gave me a raise, but told me he would cut it back again if I got into another fight (argument/row). I knew it would be with work and would be both good and bad.

You all probably think I need to be institutionalized now, huh?

Depends on what you believe. I believe we have a spirit which is separate from the soul, which is separate from our consciousness in life, and that is separate from the conscious, or higher self, after death.

Or is that what you said?

((1)) I also believe we chose our parents and the direction our life would take us, and what we would learn in the process (which we also chose). In astrology, certain generalized things will happen, but you choose what form it will take.

Your astrologist will tell you you're going to be getting a lot of animals. Either you can choose to start helping the local animal shelter by taking home animals and training them, or people will start dumping animals on your property or at your house. Its still your choice how it happens.

I think that (1) happens in christianity, (but with a god) that god knows what will happen to us, but we have a choice how it happens. Some people say that because of this ,we have no choice; that because god knows everything they have no control over their lives. That is ridiculous in my opinion, but to each their own I guess.

Apparently it makes for a weak system of government.....

The way I always *feel* it (since we're talking in such vague terms ) is that it's more like we're fragmented. We're all a part of the same thing - this lifeforce, this energy, this 'God' that runs through every one and every thing - and as such are all connected; essentially, what you said is true. However, we're still individual parts of that whole. Think of it like a puzzle - each of us is a different piece, and this is what we'd term our 'soul' and the part that reincarnates. When it's role in the puzzle is accomplished and we've learnt what we have to learn or done what we have to do, we then rejoin with that bigger picture, or do whatever it is we're meant to do when the cycle is complete. Whether each life is there so we can learn our next lesson, or to help other people we love (as groups of people tend to reincarnate together in families and friends, living out lives together), or so others can learn a lesson... eventually it serves a higher purpose related to our interconnected state.

If that makes any sense.

I am a highly scientific person but the idea of reincarnation sounds fun especially has spoken of in the tebetian book of the dead I would love to be reborn because its like being immortal and you get to see civilization progress and you can mix it up you can be a guy then die and be reincarnated has a girl so you can expreince the advantages and disadvatages of both. That and you get a infinite number of retrys it like a video game that and bad people are punished and good people are rewared you can be reborn a god or a demon but the best is to be born reborn a human.

Interesting how the idea of "choice" has come up. I don't think there is much by way of choice, I would never have chosen to have been born into the family I was knowing what my upbringing would be like.
One thing that is certain in my mind however is that people exist as "sets" so basically you meet the same "souls" over and over again throughout existance. Ie the major characters in one life remain the major characters in the next, but perhaps with the roles reversed.

Whats intersting also is that if we accept the validity of reeincarnation, what about mediums and so on who can contact "the dead"? Perhaps there is indeed another realm where souls go, but some are forced to reincarnate, or, as suggested, they choose to.

I think that's the idea... from what I understand there is the 'in between' (which is suggested is just a higher plain of vibration), during which time you reflect on your life and then when the time is right enter the next life into a situation that will teach you a lesson you need to learn in your evolution.

Makes sense to me. I am in no way a theist but I can't accept death is just a blank, and everlasting oblivion...I think there has to be something after death but there is no way I think its jesus, angels, hell, or any other such man-made idea.

From personal opinion, I would dread another life here on earth. I mean what if my next life is in a third world country absorbed in famine?

The thought of it all is scary.

I believe in this. I have not had "memory dreams" though. I see it as aa way for a persons soul to learn multiple lessons over time. The soul can choose all reincarnation preferences even to follow it chosen path. That is as much as I can say on the subject.

But in the tebetian book of the dead it states that one is in a dark cool cave and in which is sevral coupl3 and the deceased choose which family they want to be with and are then reborn as their child when they choose but thats if the person is neutral but if one is evil they are reborn a demon and if good a god.

Yes but not all angels are good and all demons bad.
I knew a Jainist once who wanted to come back as a god and protect his own planet.
Sort of neat belief really.

I'm into metempsychosis- I think everyone should be. Your karma is pre-arranged sometimes, but it's up to you to improve it.
It would make the world a better place.

I went to a pshychic once and she said that I'm a reincarnation of one of my ancesters who lived "during the time of sailboats"and that our lives are very much the same. I'm an urban planner and 4 months after the session I requested some property information of a piece of land not far from where I live n work. The farm was surveyed by someone with the same rare surname as mine in 1795. I looked it up with the heritage foundation and he was indeed my ancester, one of the 1st land surveyors, so doing almost the same job I'm doing in the same area.

This is not something that absolutely convinces me of reincarnation, it could just be an interesting coincidence but I would like to try out past life regression (hypnosis) and see if anything comes up.

anyone interested in this topic might find the following article of interest, in some way relating to my previous post:

http://www.attan.com/vedanta.html

the vedanta and western tradition by ananda coomaraswamy