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26 Jan 2009, 9:10 am

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wow, so it is true! I've been hoping so, maybe I could get an Israeli passport on that basis and add it to my ever growing collection :p

and yeah, some of the food was actually edible, although from what I remember it was all kind of sweet and salty at the same time, and I hate weird mixes like that... vanilla thingy sounds nice though, I guess it can't be bad if it has vanilla in it... will check it out!


Me love falafel!

The funny thing is, I go to an Arab restaurant to get it. :lol: That's just the closest place around that makes them.

They stare at me as if to say, "Why don't you ever order any Arab food? Geez."

I'm called "meshumed" by some, but I'm still Jewish.


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26 Jan 2009, 9:17 am

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And Israel's violent aggressive approach to solving its problems with the people in its area horrifies me.


Spare us your Jewish humor. It's called national defense against maniacs with machine guns and crazy Jew-haters who choose to blow up their own children with explosives for political gain.

Golda Meir said it best: "We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us."


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26 Jan 2009, 9:20 am

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anna-banana wrote:
wow, so it is true! I've been hoping so, maybe I could get an Israeli passport on that basis and add it to my ever growing collection :p

and yeah, some of the food was actually edible, although from what I remember it was all kind of sweet and salty at the same time, and I hate weird mixes like that... vanilla thingy sounds nice though, I guess it can't be bad if it has vanilla in it... will check it out!


Me love falafel!

The funny thing is, I go to an Arab restaurant to get it. :lol: That's just the closest place around that makes them.

They stare at me as if to say, "Why don't you ever order any Arab food? Geez."

I'm called "meshumed" by some, but I'm still Jewish.


lol falafel isn't Arabic? I buy it at a Turkish Kebab shop!


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26 Jan 2009, 9:24 am

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Okay, maybe I should define Jewish. If Your mother is jewish you are jewish. If her mother is jewish, you are jewish, ad infinitum. If you've converted, you are also Jewish.


That's your perspective on who is a Jew and who is not a Jew. I believe it's also the traditional view.

How do you feel about the group 'Jews for Jesus'?


When I meet up with a Jeez for Jusis I gnash my teeth and rend my garments. I am not well disposed toward these charlatans.

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Then you might not like to know that the founder of Jews for Jesus, Moishe Rosen, is a personal friend of mine. He has the biggest heart in the world for people, and takes a lot of flack for what he does in demonstrating that love by trying to get Jews to realize that Jesus is Jewish completely, in every possible way and sense. Moishe was raised orthodox, but eventually found the way, the truth, and the life.


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26 Jan 2009, 9:27 am

Falafel is arabic/egyptian in origin



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26 Jan 2009, 9:28 am

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Falafel is arabic/egyptian in origin


It's also the official Israeli national snack, so I wonder if the Jews have their own version of it.


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26 Jan 2009, 9:53 am

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And Israel's violent aggressive approach to solving its problems with the people in its area horrifies me.


Spare us your Jewish humor. It's called national defense against maniacs with machine guns and crazy Jew-haters who choose to blow up their own children with explosives for political gain.

Golda Meir said it best: "We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us."


It really isn't worthwhile duscussing with someone totally uninformed of the facts and completely brainwashed by Israeli propaganda.



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26 Jan 2009, 9:54 am

Mizrahi Jews have adopted much of Arab cuisine, just like the Greeks have adopted much of Turkish cuisine.

As for having a version of it depends where they came from. There are Jews in Iran, were in Iraq, Syria all over the place. There was Jews in Afghanistan until recently.

Israeli cuisine is influenced by Levantine naturally. Which varies slightly from north the south (probably east to west too)



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26 Jan 2009, 9:57 am

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Mizrahi Jews have adopted much of Arab cuisine, just like the Greeks have adopted much of Turkish cuisine.

As for having a version of it depends where they came from. There are Jews in Iran, were in Iraq, Syria all over the place. There was Jews in Afghanistan until recently.

Israeli cuisine is influenced by Levantine naturally. Which varies slightly from north the south (probably east to west too)


I think both hummus and moussaka can be bought here in both Arabic and Jewish restaurants. I guess it's a chicken and egg situation... we've been fighting with the Russians and the Ukrainians about the origin of pierogis but I's proved impossible to resolve :P


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26 Jan 2009, 10:06 am

moussaka is from greek/turkish.

Do forget that the Ottoman Empire was responsible for spreading cuisine as far north as central Europe. Even higher than that even.

Humus is Levant although was spread all around mid east to Western Sahara due to none other than guess who?

The reason why eastern Jews share the cuisine is because once upon a time they used to live side by side with Arabs peacefully before this Zionism thing started. Jews are also Arabs too, at least some of them.



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26 Jan 2009, 10:15 am

I had hummus, falafel and moussaka for the first time when I was a student, the university put on a Jewish evening. Not sure how I ended up there though cos I'm not Jewish - possibly the promise of free food, which turned out to be excellent. Not so sure about the music though :?

Off topic, But I seemed to have a habit then of turning up in strange places, one day I found myself in one of those "Praise be to the Lord" type churches full of (only) black people waving their arms around. A black Jamaican friend took me there. I've never had my hand shaken so many times in my life, I must have been the first white person to dare enter there. Nice friendly people, but not my sort of religion so didn't go again.

I nearly got roped into going to a Mosque once with a girl I fancied but that didn't materialise. There was no offer of food anyway.


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26 Jan 2009, 10:15 am

Ragtime wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
Falafel is arabic/egyptian in origin


It's also the official Israeli national snack, so I wonder if the Jews have their own version of it.


Made from kosher chick peas.

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26 Jan 2009, 10:43 am

anna-banana you know those polish dill/gherkin in brine instead of vinegar? Do you find the texture :eew: ?

I think I prefer the yiddish version with sour and sweet.



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26 Jan 2009, 11:05 am

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anna-banana you know those polish dill/gherkin in brine instead of vinegar? Do you find the texture :eew: ?

I think I prefer the yiddish version with sour and sweet.


lol it depends, the ones that are sold in jars do have an awful texture, fresh ones are great though, especially after two weeks of soaking. nice and crispy and not sluggish like the ones that have been soaking for ages.

sweet and sour is an evil mix IMO, I can't stand it in any form.


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26 Jan 2009, 11:16 am

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0_equals_true wrote:
anna-banana you know those polish dill/gherkin in brine instead of vinegar? Do you find the texture :eew: ?

I think I prefer the yiddish version with sour and sweet.


lol it depends, the ones that are sold in jars do have an awful texture, fresh ones are great though, especially after two weeks of soaking. nice and crispy and not sluggish like the ones that have been soaking for ages.

sweet and sour is an evil mix IMO, I can't stand it in any form.

Even if it is mostly sour? I am not talking about the Dill you would get in a diner in NY, more the gherkins, with vinegar, mustard, etc

I agree it can be sickly especially some Borscht recipe.

I must try making some fresh ones like you say. What I am talking about is that sort of furry taste on the skin and throughout.



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26 Jan 2009, 11:18 am

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Even if it is mostly sour? I am not talking about the Dill you would get in a diner in NY, more the gherkins, with vinegar, mustard, etc

I agree it can be sickly especially some Borscht recipe.

I must try making some fresh ones like you say. What I am talking about is that sort of furry taste on the skin and throughout.


furry taste? lol. not sure what you mean. but then again, I only ever eat fresh ones.


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