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01 Mar 2009, 10:07 pm

It's called rain. All you need is a cistern.



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02 Mar 2009, 2:46 am

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It makes no sense that Illinoians would be more conservative with their water than Californians when they live right next to the Great Lakes.


Well, California is right next to the Pacific Ocean. All you need is some desalination plants. Maybe distill the ocean, and you can sell the salt.


Desalination is quite expensive and requires lots of energy



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02 Mar 2009, 3:29 am

Perth Australia manages to thrive on desalinization.


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02 Mar 2009, 3:31 am

It's times like these I'm glad I live up north.



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02 Mar 2009, 3:34 am

Tahitiii, Canadians have been talking about American water shortages for years. You guys must really be forcibly distracted to only become aware of it now.


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03 Mar 2009, 12:21 pm

Fuzzy is right. They employ renewable resources to evaporate the water so everyone wins.


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03 Mar 2009, 12:37 pm

Well you pay for it anyway, whether it's govt owned or private.

I'm on tank water for the first time in my life and while it's free, I boil it for drinking or buy bottled water to drink.



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03 Mar 2009, 2:08 pm

If it's private, they can charge whatever they like.
And they will.



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03 Mar 2009, 6:49 pm

The govt charges on water can be huge, not for consumption which is usually fairly low cost, or up to a certain amount, the users who use over that pay more per litre as its classed as excessive.

The big bills come from what they call 'service and equipment charges' which usually means you pay a lot of 'rent' just to have the pipes on your property. In another state I used to live in this could be like $600-$900AUD per year. So that's an example of govt charges for water supply. Not cheap.

Where I live (this council area) now the piped (town) water is free, but that's very unusual and they're talking about bringing in charges.



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03 Mar 2009, 7:20 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Perth Australia manages to thrive on desalinization.


oh i don't know about that Fuzzy, I think they have approved a desalinization plant as an experiment. There is a very large aquifer (underground water) under West Australia and a lot of people there use bore water, but not for drinking. It can become contaminated and it has lots of iron/metals in it. I think the drinking water in Perth still comes from dams, the south of the state has quite good regular rainfall and the north has seasonal monsoonal rains, so they're also thinking about piping it in from the wetter parts of the state, as Perth's future water supply is a problem. Kalgoorlie (inland ex gold mining town, now thriving city) gets its water piped in from the north of the state.



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03 Mar 2009, 10:46 pm

Postperson wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
Perth Australia manages to thrive on desalinization.


oh i don't know about that Fuzzy, I think they have approved a desalinization plant as an experiment. There is a very large aquifer (underground water) under West Australia and a lot of people there use bore water, but not for drinking. It can become contaminated and it has lots of iron/metals in it. I think the drinking water in Perth still comes from dams, the south of the state has quite good regular rainfall and the north has seasonal monsoonal rains, so they're also thinking about piping it in from the wetter parts of the state, as Perth's future water supply is a problem. Kalgoorlie (inland ex gold mining town, now thriving city) gets its water piped in from the north of the state.


Thanks for pointing that out PP. I appreciate it.


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04 Mar 2009, 2:21 am

Bloody Americans there is a world out side your borders :lol: The punjab is in danger of becoming a dustbowl, northern china is severely affected by drought, most of Australia is in severe drought, the cause of most of the trouble in the middle east is over water,

The world is facing major changes in climatic conditions which include some areas becoming increasingly prone to flood and others facing long and debilitating drought.

I suspect that if there is to be another global conflict it will have climatic change as a root cause


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04 Mar 2009, 2:57 am

now now Arfur.



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04 Mar 2009, 3:04 am

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now now Arfur.


wot u on abawt


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04 Mar 2009, 8:21 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
Americans there is a world out side your borders
Yet much of the world uses the same ethno-centric vocabulary.
Newsflash: Chili is part of America. Greenland is part of America. It's a big place.

DentArthurDent wrote:
The world is facing major changes in climatic conditions which include some areas becoming increasingly prone to flood and others facing long and debilitating drought.
I suspect that if there is to be another global conflict it will have climatic change as a root cause
"If?"
Lots of people have been saying for years that "the big one" will be over water.
That's pretty much what I was thinking when I started this thread.
Not that there's really a shortage, but the people who are aggressive enough to
grab the power are usually too stupid to know what to do with it.



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04 Mar 2009, 10:54 am

Tahitiii wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
Americans there is a world out side your borders
Yet much of the world uses the same ethno-centric vocabulary.
Newsflash: Chili is part of America. Greenland is part of America. It's a big place.

DentArthurDent wrote:
The world is facing major changes in climatic conditions which include some areas becoming increasingly prone to flood and others facing long and debilitating drought.
I suspect that if there is to be another global conflict it will have climatic change as a root cause
"If?"
Lots of people have been saying for years that "the big one" will be over water.
That's pretty much what I was thinking when I started this thread.
Not that there's really a shortage, but the people who are aggressive enough to
grab the power are usually too stupid to know what to do with it.


I don't know about Greenland but chili is good with rice and beans.