Embryonic stem cell don't work "Mr.Obama"

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I'm horrified at all this talk of cooking babies or eating them raw!

They should be hung for a least a week before being eaten to allow the flavour to develop. And if you do insist on barbecuing them remember to put some strips of bacon around them - it helps the skin to crisp up nicely - everyone likes a little crackling.

Eating red meat is bad for your health. See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 161109.htm

So eating babies should be banned or at least frowned upon like smoking.

Perhaps it should be taxed more heavily.

The sarcasm will be lost on fundamentalists as babies and living humans do not concern them. It is fetuses that they get jumpy about.

Spaghetti with fetus
Should, perhaps, greet us
For dinner, or maybe for lunch.
And delight us with with spices
To enhance the slices.
A scrumptious flavor I've a hunch.
Now, fundies might scream
Or do something extreme
But we can assure them quite well.
That no fetus feels pain,
Nerves are null in the main
And we'll join them in penance in hell.

Stem Cell research is still in its infancy. It will be a while before we can tell how successful it is for treating diseases. The science of genetics as it is now known originated in the 1950s (Franklin, Crick Watson). We shall see how effective it is.

In the mean time reading some religious crank's scientific pronouncements is not a very productive way to find out what is what. Murray has a religious agenda which puts everything thing he utters in a dubious light.

ruveyn

Actually i read in the news that there was a successful operation from stem cells which cured cancer (or was it SIDA?). Anyway, i reckon they found out that europeans that had survived the black pest were mostly immune to either of the two, so they took the gene and plugged it via stem cell into someone who had the disease and said person was cured. :> It's rather recent, but i can't remember much...

Shadowgirl is simply ignorant of the facts. Sure, adult stem cells have promise, but let the science play itself out. Adult stem cells only make one kind of tissue. Foetal stem cells can grow into any kind of tissue. Besides, these embryos would otherwise be flushed and used for no practical purpose.

I don't see the protestors of embryonic stem cell research picketing fertility clinics, when they commonly generate these embryos in abundance.

Also, the embryos used for such research are not specially bred - rather, they are harvested from embryos that are being discarded after abortions and miscarriages, or from those not implanted during IVF operations (OctoMom aside, generally there are quite a few more embryos created during such procedures than are ever implanted. They're kept for a time as backups, in case the implanted ones don't take, then discarded when the mother is carrying safely.)

Incidentally, there's a very good reason why more work has been done with adult stem cells in this country - because during the Bush Misadministration, researchers who accepted federal funds were restricted to working with one of twelve existing lines of stem cells. All the embryos that went unused at IVF clinics, or were removed during operations, were thrown in the trash. (Now that's respectful of life, isn't it?) On the other hand, anyone who cared to could donate adult stem cells - they could even be taken from bone marrow removed for compatibility tests from organ donors. Thus, there were many, many more adult stem cells available than embryonic - and very few medical research companies were willing to shell out of their own pockets when federal funds were available, no matter how it tied the scientists' hands.