Where the GOP goes from here

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All goods are consumed and destroyed, whether or not that leads to further production.

Nobody can "make their own job" without money to start with you dolt. You expect the destitute homeless to be able to get up and start their own business?

In a modern society we are dependent on technology and resources to survive. To obtain these resources one needs money. Nobody can completely "do it on their own". We need community to survive. If nobody is willing or able to hire the unemployed because all the wealth has been concentrated at the top the situation becomes broken. What you're doing is asking the unemployed to go out into the woods and forage for berries like hunter-gatherers because no one owes them anything. Only they can't because they would be trespassing on someone else's private property.

Also why are you talking at me? Trying to make this personal. Telling me to get off "my ass". This isn't about me you dumb prick. It's about how society fails to functions in your dumb egotistical libertarian utopia where nobody has any obligation to their neighbor. You are a completely hopeless jackass as are all libertarians.

People sneak across the Mexican border and do this every day! This country was built on people coming here with nothing and building a life for themselves.

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Not true. Sometimes the added value is intangible. Let us say a person goes to see a movie. He pays, he watches. But suppose further the movie inspires him to do something valuable that he would not have done had he not seen the movie. And so on.....

Not all acts of use or consumption are dead end.

ruveyn

I didn't mean to suggest that consumption is a dead end -- just that goods are consumed, whether or not there is a resulting good or service at either a lesser or greater value.

The market is community. Community doesn't have to mean social services. You and I can work together in a market transaction in order to benefit both of us.

That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. If an old women can't open a door I help her open it. I don't try to bargain the highest price I can out of her before opening the door.

The mantra of the Baby Boomers. The Millenials are learning it quickly.

Gen X didn't bite that hook. Not surprising since we resented having to be latch key kids so that the Boomers could refuse to grow up or grow old and keep all the jobs and money for themselves, and then they salted the earth when they finally had to cede it to us.

1. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal
"We've got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything. We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys."

2. Rep.-elect Ted Yoho (R-Fla.), on why he won't sign Norquist's pledge: "I don't want to sign a pledge that's going to tie my hands. I need free rein to do what I think is right for the people in my district and the country."

3. Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol
"It won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. It really won't, I don't think. I don't really understand why Republicans don't take Obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. Make it $500,000, make it a million..... Really? The Republican Party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted Democratic and half of whom live in Hollywood and are hostile?"

4. Matthew Dowd, a George W. Bush strategist, in response to Kristol
"Finally a little sanity and sense of need for shared sacrifice."

5. New York Times conservative columnist Ross Douthat
"What the party really needs, much more than a better identity-politics pitch, is an economic message that would appeal across demographic lines — reaching both downscale white voters turned off by Romney's Bain Capital background and upwardly mobile Latino voters who don't relate to the current G.O.P. fixation on upper-bracket tax cuts.... The bad news is that unlike a pander on immigration, a new economic agenda probably wouldn't be favorably received by the party's big donors, who tend to be quite happy with the Republican Party's current positioning. But after spending billions of those donors' dollars with nothing to show for it, perhaps Republicans should seek a different path: one in which they raise a little less money but win a few more votes."

The Repugnican Party is the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything. And, the Repugnican Party is most especially the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys. If the Repugnican Party starts to lose its identity, then it might as well just merge with the Democratic Party.

The Republican Party is in mortal danger of going down the drain if they do not wake up to reality. The current bunch has completely shut their eyes to the needs and conditions under which ordinary folk live and work. This leaves the Democrat liberals free to sell their lie, that prosperity can be had just by printing money. The liberal program at full speed will drive the productive business people out of this country.

ruveyn

Good riddance.

The productive business people are the ones footing the bill for all those government services you support.

just remember which class of people made your computer and the internet possible. ruveyn