And the Zimmerman verdict is...

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I was referring to your somewhat childish comments about daring me to repeat my posts to your face. It also occurred to me you are probably too young to have watched a Clint Eastwood movie.

I'm struggling to think of a case where a civilian has used a weapon to successfully defend their family? A few cases come to mind where petrol station attendants have used batons to chase thugs but not loaded weapons. On the other hand there are thousands of tragic cases where children or adults have used weapons in their households to kill others either by accident or deliberately. Is it any wonder the gun lobby are so steadfast in defending Zimmerman, it's a political stunt to make Zimmerman appear like a victim defending himself in order to (perversely) demonstrate civilians need guns.

You don't have to have a medical qualification to assess that George Zimmerman's criminal record plus dependency on medication are a sign he has a diagnosed mental health condition. I'm fairly sure his criminal and medical records were deemed inadmissible in his court case. I'm guessing ADHD, bipolar or borderline personality disorder.

Yeah, that's about the response I expected from you.

And rolling your eyes is all I expected from you...

Mexico banned guns

that sure is working out for them
no one ever gets shot in Mexico

Mexico also has one of the most corrupt police forces in the world, any wonder armed drug cartels and people smugglers flourish in that country

Google is your friend. 10 seconds and found this:LINK. Successful self-defense doesn't usually grab headlines for weeks on end. "Family of five murdered during home invasion. Killers on the loose. Neighborhood terrorized," is going to sell a lot more papers as the manhunt, apprehension, and trial proceed, than would be the case if the storyline went, "Father halts home invasion by shooting assailants. 2 dead, third apprehended at hospital with gunshot wounds. Family safe." The story leads nowhere, not for the Pulitzer-aspiring reporter, anyway. So it's no surprise there's low awareness of defensive gun use, quite apart from any political inclinations.

I suppose you missed the headline story of a gun toting vigilante successfully blowing the brains of black teenager wandering around where "he wasn't supposed to be". That seems to have become popular story, and none of the reporters will be expecting a Pulitzer either

Really, that's why I support due process and reasonable doubt in all cases, even those not involving firearms? Wow, you really are a mind reader, even I didn't know that about myself. I couldn't *possibly* have a genuine belief in the core tenet of our legal system, a genuine belief in the right to defend oneself from criminal assault, and I clearly believe that the proper response to a punch is a bullet. It's also completely wrong of me to empathize with the guy who's life has been ruined by a politically driven malicious prosecution, since hey, everyone knows that if the government accuses someone of something, they must be guilty!



Ahh, so then you won't be having any objection when an armed posse shows up at your house to bring you to justice for internet ass-hattery in the first degree? Maybe a drone strike, I hear those are all the rage these days with people who aren't fond of due process.



The system is a joke, and if you'd spent any time actually looking at anything I've ever posted, you'd know that I'm perhaps the most vocal critic of the US justice system on WP, but apparently you'd rather make an ass of yourself by making assumptions about me and going off half cocked. You'd also know that I have no partisan alignment, and my "politics" align with this verdict insomuch as they align with the idea that you can't send someone to prison without convicting them of a crime; do your politics endorse that? Oh wait, "I don't really give a sh*t about due process or all that other nonsense", you do endorse that.

It's "childish" to ask someone if they'd repeat their inflammatory statement in person, not just in the safe relative anonymity of cyberspace? Much like the word "vigilante", I guess words just have different meanings down in Oz...

Also, I'm 31, plenty of Eastwood movies to pick from even if this handy video recording technology, which apparently hasn't yet reached Australia, wasn't around.

If you think what I post is only from the safety of my computer then you are dead wrong (pardon the pun). I'd be happy to have this discussion with any pro-gun person face to face (provided of course they aren't carrying a live weapon like our friend Zimmerman and become trigger happy).



Hilarious

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Also, please tone down the angry responses.

You help make my point. In the Zimmerman case there would have been no story worth the media's time except for the manufactured racial angle. If, all else being the same, George had been named Jorge, media reaction would have been "minority shoots minority. No news in that." Add on Z's self-defense claim that the police saw no reason to disbelieve, and the story would have had minimal local interest & zero national attention.

And I have had many face to face discussions on gun control myself. I know of a few who were dyed in the wool gunz-r-bad believers but later found themselves in a situation where their view of the world was all the sudden changed to the opposite. An instant armed self defense advocate and gun owner created all the sudden. And, since they have a bad experience to reflect back on for the rest of their lives, it's doubtful they'll ever sink back into the gunz-r-bad mode.


How would you know if someone was carrying a "live" weapon, or dead one for that matter?
What exactly is a "live' weapon? Can you hear them breath?

Find me an incident where someone was shot over a gun control argument, just one will do.



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