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Should I move to Australia if Obama wins?
Yes. 34%  34%  [ 46 ]
No. 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
I just wanna see the results. 25%  25%  [ 33 ]
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07 Nov 2012, 11:39 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Given that Australia has a Labor Prime Minister, you might want to have a bit of a rethink about whether that is your destination of choice when it comes to your exit strategy.


maybe he meant Austria?


Nah, Austria, like the rest of Western Europe, is a "socialist hellhole."

And I'd caution our friend Ragtime that Australia, while a beautiful country, is full of poisonous snakes and spiders, as well as man eating salt water crocodiles. And the ocean surrounding Australia is haunted by great white sharks and bull sharks (the latter being even more dangerous to humans), as well as the claim by some that lurking off the shores are plesiosaurs! And if that's true, you gotta figure that those refugees from Loch Ness are highly carnivorous!

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Socialist hellhole?



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07 Nov 2012, 12:00 pm

This thread was started in Oct 2008 and last saw the light of say in Dec 2011 - many contributors posting before that date no longer visit WP and since Mr. Obama now has a second term, I suggest that starting a new thread on that specific topic would be a better idea than resurrecting 26 pages of stale posts.
Sometimes I think WP needs its own version of the Anatomy Act. :wink:


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07 Nov 2012, 12:06 pm

Cornflake wrote:
This thread was started in Oct 2008 and last saw the light of say in Dec 2011 - many contributors posting before that date no longer visit WP and since Mr. Obama now has a second term, I suggest that starting a new thread on that specific topic would be a better idea than resurrecting 26 pages of stale posts.
Sometimes I think WP needs its own version of the Anatomy Act. :wink:


Except that we don't have anyone else presently giving us a laugh by threatening to move to Australia. :lol:



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08 Nov 2012, 8:25 am

^^^i can empathise with their wish to move countries based on the heinousness of their leader but i wonder if they actually ended up following through with this. if they didn't the first time then surely the second must have done it?

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Australia is very socialist. If you object to the Obamanation on that ground, Australia is the last place to which to move.

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yes, very socialist what with it's neoliberal government and corresponding political agenda and all. agree with the obamanation bit.



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09 Nov 2012, 12:36 pm

Yah, please do move somewhere else. You should totally do that, and I support you 100%.



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09 Nov 2012, 8:03 pm

By non socialist, I think Ragtime has the mistaken idea that white=non socialist.
I don't understand "capitalists" because by their definition Adam Smith is not a true capitalist-he was for public education and some consumer protections.



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10 Nov 2012, 2:41 pm

No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.



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10 Nov 2012, 4:06 pm

Seabass wrote:
No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.


One can bear arms in the U.S. Just choose the right State to live in and you can ever carry openly.

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10 Nov 2012, 5:07 pm

Seabass wrote:
No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.


At least we have fewer shootings here, if only someone in America had the guts to start campaigning for gun control they would have less shootings there too.



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10 Nov 2012, 5:40 pm

Aprilviolets wrote:
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No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.


At least we have fewer shootings here, if only someone in America had the guts to start campaigning for gun control they would have less shootings there too.


Maybe, but we'd also have more bludgeoning, stabbing, strangling and cutting going on. If we took our shooting murders off the books completely and just assumed that without guns they wouldn't happen at all, we'd still have a murder rate 3 times that of gun free Japan's; we're just a violent lot here. At least with the guns the ability to use force, for good or for bad, is equitable, as with most of the other methods things like strength and weight come into into, making the weak more vulnerable to the strong.


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10 Nov 2012, 5:40 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Seabass wrote:
No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.


One can bear arms in the U.S. Just choose the right State to live in and you can ever carry openly.

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I know



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10 Nov 2012, 5:47 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
Seabass wrote:
No way, look up their gun control laws. At least we can still defend ourselves here.


At least we have fewer shootings here, if only someone in America had the guts to start campaigning for gun control they would have less shootings there too.


Maybe, but we'd also have more bludgeoning, stabbing, strangling and cutting going on. If we took our shooting murders off the books completely and just assumed that without guns they wouldn't happen at all, we'd still have a murder rate 3 times that of gun free Japan's; we're just a violent lot here. At least with the guns the ability to use force, for good or for bad, is equitable, as with most of the other methods things like strength and weight come into into, making the weak more vulnerable to the strong.


We've had a lot of stabbings here too as well as glassing mainly due too drunks getting into arguments.

The Port Arthur Massacre is still raw here thats why we had Gun control it didn't stop criminals though they would have hidden their guns.



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10 Nov 2012, 5:53 pm

I love living in Texas.



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10 Nov 2012, 5:55 pm

Aprilviolets wrote:
We've had a lot of stabbings here too as well as glassing mainly due too drunks getting into arguments.

The Port Arthur Massacre is still raw here thats why we had Gun control it didn't stop criminals though they would have hidden their guns.


Not trying to turn this into another gun thread, but if you look at the crime stats from when the Australian gun laws were tightened, what you saw was not a decrease in violent crime but a decrease in shootings, with other forms of assault taking up the resulting "slack".

Also, "glassing", such a charming practice. For those not of the commonwealth, or in my case, possessing encyclopedic knowledge of violence, glassing refers to the practice of slamming someone's head into their beer glass in such a way that the shattered glass shreds their face. I would say that the closest US analogue would be the curb stomp.

Both England and Australia have responded to glassing, rather typically, by "encouraging" or mandating that bars use non-glass or tempered glass serving ware... Next it will be the silverware.


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10 Nov 2012, 6:03 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
We've had a lot of stabbings here too as well as glassing mainly due too drunks getting into arguments.

The Port Arthur Massacre is still raw here thats why we had Gun control it didn't stop criminals though they would have hidden their guns.


Not trying to turn this into another gun thread, but if you look at the crime stats from when the Australian gun laws were tightened, what you saw was not a decrease in violent crime but a decrease in shootings, with other forms of assault taking up the resulting "slack".

Also, "glassing", such a charming practice. For those not of the commonwealth, or in my case, possessing encyclopedic knowledge of violence, glassing refers to the practice of slamming someone's head into their beer glass in such a way that the shattered glass shreds their face. I would say that the closest US analogue would be the curb stomp.

Both England and Australia have responded to glassing, rather typically, by "encouraging" or mandating that bars use non-glass or tempered glass serving ware... Next it will be the silverware.


Sadly society is becoming very violent we have road rage, Drug fuelled violence, people breaking into other people's homes the list goes on.



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30 Dec 2012, 10:29 am