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thomas81
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04 Aug 2012, 2:50 pm

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The difference was, Che made no attempt to systematically exterminate a race of people on the sole basis of their ethnicity.



Neither did Hitler or his buddies until the end of 1941. Their first attempt was to eject the Jews from Germany, but no one else would take the except for the few that could get to the U.S. or Palestine. Eventually, the Brits gave into to Arab pressure and put a stop to Jewish emigration to Palestine.

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In spite of Hitlers world view or opinions on race, the German jews had every right to live in Germany. They were born and raised there, and in most cases probably had several generations of geneology linked to Germany. The jews had no cultural connection or legal residency entitlements to the other countries he had attempted to 'eject' them to. It was Hitler and his party alone that took the descision to murder 6 million jews. Nobody else.

Moreover, it wasn't only jews that were subjected to the holocaust. It was also homosexuals, the disabled, trade unionists, socialists, communists, anarchists and christian preachers. None of which had anything to do with whatever diplomatic disagreements that Hitler may have been having with other countries.



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04 Aug 2012, 7:15 pm

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He was a Stalinist, with Maoist influences, and hence would probably put me in a labour camp of some sort. He was also deeply homophobic, and so on. Regardless, in the context of his actions and the society he grew up with, I'mma have to say hero.


He was a marxist (he was never a stalinist) with Maoist influences.

It's an important differentiation to make.


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05 Aug 2012, 9:10 am

Kjas wrote:
Guppy wrote:
He was a Stalinist, with Maoist influences, and hence would probably put me in a labour camp of some sort. He was also deeply homophobic, and so on. Regardless, in the context of his actions and the society he grew up with, I'mma have to say hero.


He was a marxist (he was never a stalinist) with Maoist influences.

It's an important differentiation to make.


"I have sworn before a picture of the old and mourned comrade Stalin that I won't rest until I see these capitalist octopuses annihilated." - Che Guevara, 1953.