17 Sep 2023, 12:11 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
MaxE wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
"Neoliberal" has nothing to do with "liberalism" as the word is used in the US.
Both neoliberalism and neoconservatism are "conservative".
The "liberal" part of the term "neoliberal" refers to "classic liberalism" or "laissez Faire liberalism" of the 19th century...the belief in "letting the free market do its thing", and non interference.
American "Liberals" favor letting the govt occasionally step in to...do a few things for people that the free market cant do.
Both neoliberalism and neoconservatism are "conservative".
The "liberal" part of the term "neoliberal" refers to "classic liberalism" or "laissez Faire liberalism" of the 19th century...the belief in "letting the free market do its thing", and non interference.
American "Liberals" favor letting the govt occasionally step in to...do a few things for people that the free market cant do.
Yeah this is why Americans on the left use both those epithets to attack Biden. On the Right, assuming the speaker gives Biden credit for being fully functional (rather than impaired by dementia) they will simply say he's either a Communist or a common criminal.
Yes...Biden is a woke Marxist, and a neocon neoliberal.
Not to mention head of a crime family!Forgot to add that the two main parties in the UK are "Labor and Conservative" ...the equivalent in Australia are "Labor and Liberal" because apparently the Australians retain the 19th Century definition of "Liberal" to mean ...basically "conservative". So it really just like Britain. Or thats my understanding (everything I know about Aussie politics I got from watching the movie "Don's Party" back in the Seventies).
Well in Canada the 3 main (apart from Francophone) parties are Conservative, Liberal, and NDP (the latter having been formed more recently than the others IIRC). Which tells us that in Canada, Conservative does not equal Liberal. Or?
17 Sep 2023, 12:23 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
MaxE wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
"Neoliberal" has nothing to do with "liberalism" as the word is used in the US.
Both neoliberalism and neoconservatism are "conservative".
The "liberal" part of the term "neoliberal" refers to "classic liberalism" or "laissez Faire liberalism" of the 19th century...the belief in "letting the free market do its thing", and non interference.
American "Liberals" favor letting the govt occasionally step in to...do a few things for people that the free market cant do.
Both neoliberalism and neoconservatism are "conservative".
The "liberal" part of the term "neoliberal" refers to "classic liberalism" or "laissez Faire liberalism" of the 19th century...the belief in "letting the free market do its thing", and non interference.
American "Liberals" favor letting the govt occasionally step in to...do a few things for people that the free market cant do.
Yeah this is why Americans on the left use both those epithets to attack Biden. On the Right, assuming the speaker gives Biden credit for being fully functional (rather than impaired by dementia) they will simply say he's either a Communist or a common criminal.
Yes...Biden is a woke Marxist, and a neocon neoliberal.
Not to mention head of a crime family!Forgot to add that the two main parties in the UK are "Labor and Conservative" ...the equivalent in Australia are "Labor and Liberal" because apparently the Australians retain the 19th Century definition of "Liberal" to mean ...basically "conservative". So it really just like Britain. Or thats my understanding (everything I know about Aussie politics I got from watching the movie "Don's Party" back in the Seventies).
The two main parties in the UK, 'Labour' & 'the Conservatives, are both fairly liberal in terms of social policies, at least relative to US conservatives. The Conservatives in the UK don't really care much about conserving anything socially.
In terms of economic policy, the Conservatives normally do the typical fiscally Conservative thing of 'tax cuts' (for the rich) - but try to make it as though the average person will benefit, when that isn't the case most of the time and with most of their policies.
Redistribution of wealth to poor people is minimised by the Conservatives, whilst Labour often try to maintain a status quo, but who never improve things because economically, they too do not want to commit to social spending in a socialist fashion. Which is why many people refer to them as 'Tory (Conservative) lites'.
