Why Do people Promote the idea that Science is a religion?

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Izaak
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10 May 2008, 4:25 am

Sedaka wrote:
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i guess what's trippin me up is...

what do you (non-believers) not buy about evolution?

what are these "non-facts"... other than, "this is how it happened"

i mean... do we not believe in dinosaurs??

do we need to go back that far?

do you believe in DNA? mutations? heritage?

the amount of time in which it happened?

what is it?

just the shame that we ARE related to monkeys?

i don't understand.


It's largely a straw man. They equate abiogenesis with evolution, and because abiogenesis was God's responsibility, KNOW that evolution CAN'T be true. Facts don't matter.

God is a metaphysical construct, where as "evolution" is a scientific one. And in the hierarchy of knowledge Metaphysics trumps science. Because science is a product of a philosophical view that is incompatible with religon to the extent that someone is religious. You'd have to first convince them that God "Created" the universe from scratch, and then implemented the process of evolution in order to achieve his goals, and that his hand still plays a part. That is the only way I have ever seen a religious person accept evolution.


The answer to the original question (see topic) the reason religious people promote science as a religion is to establish a legitimacy for their religion. They seek the respect and honour that properly belongs to Science. What they don't understand is that science HAS that respect because it utilises the Scientific Method. THAT is what gets the respect and honour. Religious people call science a religion in the hopes that people who respect science will also suspend their brains (much like they have) and thus respect religion.

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Suspend their brains: Take an idea/hypothesis on faith rather than through rational understanding. (religious people may feel free to drop this definition in order to misrepresent my argument, or commit other logical fallacies.)


i realize it's a somewhat rhetorical question...

was just hoping someone would rise to the challenge of forming some intelligent thought.



ah, it was rhetorical. Forgive me... I have Asperger's! :P



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10 May 2008, 6:25 am

RELIGION and SCIENCE are mutually exclusive in that they use different systems in their attempts to discover TRUTH. The two will very likely never reconcile their differences, nor would either SCIENCE or RELIGION want to do that. Why might some people promote the idea that science is a religion? Because superficially, and when taken to extremes, the two appear to have some similar qualities - particularly: 1. A system of belief; 2. Orthodox texts; 3. Adherents who would go to hell (literal or figurative) and back to defend their belief; 4. A distrust at best and hatred at worst of the opposing set of beliefs and; 5. A demeaning or belittling of the opposing believers.

If you remove arguments about content, and on the level of strongly held beliefs based on systems that are attempting to discover truth, Science and Religion can look quite similar.

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