Why use guns for killing

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It is in the official training. Knives are deadly force and met with deadly force.

Tueller Drill rule is in effect. Basic rule is that a bad guy with a knife can close a 21 foot gap VERY quickly.

Where exactly did you get your self-defense "information" from? It is complete crap.

BTW, Leg shots can be lethal (femoral artery).

yes, and 12 chest shots can be nonlethal.

We do not argue about the fact that when officer is attacked by knife, he uses gun. It is ok. Problem people see in this specific incident is elsewhere.

And your point is what now?

My age is irrelevant but what you need to know is that I'm older than 21. There was a thread I posted a while back about some a**hole pet owner who not only packed heat, but has a bunch of highly aggressive mastiffs and thinks that he gets to kill anyone who shoots his dogs. EVEN IF his dogs attack without provocation and are off their turf.

So yeah buddy, if I had guys like that in my neighborhood I'd have an AK at my crib as well as a pistol in my pocket. Not that I'd wave it around just to be a jackass but if I had it legally I'd make sure guys like that were aware that I had some pretty awesome firepower. I hope the understand the concept.

Educate yourself. You sound ignorant.

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PS: Your avatar is ghey(along with yer backside! )

RICKY5 - did you read this thread, and anything else about the given incident? About questions people ask?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4849521 ... t=#4849521

Photo from the incident

From the picture linked here, it looks like the deceased is WAY TOO CLOSE to the cops for comfort. Only two cops have drawn down on him.

Keep in mind that soft body armor is not that good at defending against things like knifes, arrows, and shivs. It has to be stiffened and reinforced to defend against those because the points slide through kevlar just like any clothing.

The way the suspect is holding the knife indicates that he is likely to use it in a manner targeting the neck or other zones uncovered by any sort of armor. Which means that he is presenting deadly force.

It appears that of the 20 cops deployed to the scene, a number of them had to do both crowd containment (keeping people from getting too close to gawk at the scene) and keep eyes on the suspect to make stop him if he lunges at a civilian bystander.

Sure it would have been nice to have a cop with a bean bag shotgun to incapacitate but it looks like one could not have been deployed in a reasonable time.

So what is your point then?

So what do I sound *ignorant* of, punk?


Maybe rednecks don't like the idea that somebody who aint one of em can actually outgun their asses. Arming yourself for personal protection is one thing, but arming yourself because you think it makes you all powerful and entitled to get your by force and dominate others is delusional.........And potentially deadly for those dumb enough to think that it's going to work in this day and age.

You can choose your target. Guns can be aimed. Bombs cannot. Bombs are indiscriminate. That is why terrorists use them and assassins usually do not.

ruveyn

If one could harness the explosive power of a volcanic eruption one could rule the world with ease. The explosive force of a volcanic eruption is about that of 40000 atom bombs!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_Explosivity_Index

Dude, the explosive power of a nuclear bomb is highly variable. The eruption of Mt St. Helens had an explosive force of 200 megatons. A nuclear bomb with that much explosive power is totally feasible. The Tsar bomb had a yield of 50 megatons but could've been designed differently to produce a yield as large as that of the Mt St Helens eruption. I see no reason why it's not possible to build even larger, more powerful nuclear bombs with the explosive force of a stratovolcano other than politics.

RICKY5 - I really hate repeating myself. I wrote it 3x at least...

So for the last time. They are close, because they are chasing him. Watch vids for better image.
They were chasing him for some time, then they tried to block him by cars. He dodged the first one, the second one came so close cops in it felt in danger and started to shoot.
All I wanted to say is, that police made a few mistakes (in my opinion and I am not alone). Now I agree it was not an easy situation. But how does it help to deny the mistakes? To say they done well? If we/they don't learn from the mistakes, we will repeat them with much worse consequences one day. That's all I am saying.

PS: Take a look at those people around. What do you see?

I think this thread has officially become a bitch-a-thon.

You sound ignorant of the extreme seriousness of the burden carried by those who decide to carry weapons for self-defense. The fact that you would even consider using an automatic weapon for such a role shows just how ignorant you really are. They're fun to shoot, but it's virtually impossible to use one against a target without causing some kind of collateral damage. And in the world outside a warzone, collateral damage is absolutely 100% unacceptable in any way, shape, or form. If you shoot an intruder in your house with an automatic weapon, and a few rounds miss (which they will) - and go through your wall and hit a neighbor - *you will go to jail*. *for murder*. And worse than that, you have committed - intentionally or not - an act which cannot be forgiven, and you've destroyed many people's lives. It's bad enough when you're forced to do this to a person who means to do you serious harm, you're not likely to ever be the same person again - but it's another thing entirely to take a life which you didn't mean to take, which was completely innocent and meant no harm to you. You stop being one who would take a stand to protect himself and his loved ones, and become the very thing that those of us who carry mean to protect ourselves against.

That burden is the burden that *everyone* who carries faces. That's the realization that I came to walking out of the gun show with my carry gun - that gripped me every minute of the way home. If you choose to carry, you need to come to that realization too - because the consequences of you *not* coming to that realization are just too high.