Why use guns for killing
Dude, the explosive power of a nuclear bomb is highly variable. The eruption of Mt St. Helens had an explosive force of 200 megatons. A nuclear bomb with that much explosive power is totally feasible. The Tsar bomb had a yield of 50 megatons but could've been designed differently to produce a yield as large as that of the Mt St Helens eruption. I see no reason why it's not possible to build even larger, more powerful nuclear bombs with the explosive force of a stratovolcano other than politics.
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No sh*t?
If you read back a few pages, someone basically suggested that pepper was just as good at taking people down and we didn't guns.
I know, I was arguing with said mall ninja, that's why I thought your stating the obvious was so funny.
I spent a long time googling 'mall ninja' and I now hold you personally responsible for all the piss I have shed over shed myself. Please wire the compensatory amount of 3 million dollars to my account in the cayman islands.
Maybe rednecks don't like the idea that somebody who aint one of em can actually outgun their asses. Arming yourself for personal protection is one thing, but arming yourself because you think it makes you all powerful and entitled to get your by force and dominate others is delusional.........And potentially deadly for those dumb enough to think that it's going to work in this day and age.
You sound ignorant of the extreme seriousness of the burden carried by those who decide to carry weapons for self-defense. The fact that you would even consider using an automatic weapon for such a role shows just how ignorant you really are. They're fun to shoot, but it's virtually impossible to use one against a target without causing some kind of collateral damage. And in the world outside a warzone, collateral damage is absolutely 100% unacceptable in any way, shape, or form. If you shoot an intruder in your house with an automatic weapon, and a few rounds miss (which they will) - and go through your wall and hit a neighbor - *you will go to jail*. *for murder*. And worse than that, you have committed - intentionally or not - an act which cannot be forgiven, and you've destroyed many people's lives. It's bad enough when you're forced to do this to a person who means to do you serious harm, you're not likely to ever be the same person again - but it's another thing entirely to take a life which you didn't mean to take, which was completely innocent and meant no harm to you. You stop being one who would take a stand to protect himself and his loved ones, and become the very thing that those of us who carry mean to protect ourselves against.
That burden is the burden that *everyone* who carries faces. That's the realization that I came to walking out of the gun show with my carry gun - that gripped me every minute of the way home. If you choose to carry, you need to come to that realization too - because the consequences of you *not* coming to that realization are just too high.
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No sh*t?
If you read back a few pages, someone basically suggested that pepper was just as good at taking people down and we didn't guns.
I know, I was arguing with said mall ninja, that's why I thought your stating the obvious was so funny.
I spent a long time googling 'mall ninja' and I now hold you personally responsible for all the piss I have shed over shed myself. Please wire the compensatory amount of 3 million dollars to my account in the cayman islands.
It's really more a form of cosplay. "Mall ninja" is a derogatory term for people who would like to think they are operators (but deep down are still in touch wit the reality they are not) and tend to be ridiculed by the rest of gun owners. For some the gear is part of their survivalist/prepper plan, some may be concerned about social unrest, sometimes volunteers in minuteman groups might use it, and for some people it's not clear why they are interested in it. There are cases of a few active shooters who used 'tacti-cool' items, but the true mall ninja has been collecting it for a long time. I'm not aware of any incidents where a true mall ninja has used their weapons and gear offensively.
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I've decided to launch R&R of a portable high powered chemical laser weapon. It would be the size of a large bazooka and require a backpack with a fuel hose, but it'll be awesome.
Most likely I'll use benzene and oxygen, but if I can figure out how to contain the heat within the optical cavity and reaction chamber, I might use oxyacetylene.
Sounds like it'll fry up a good burger
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Maybe rednecks don't like the idea that somebody who aint one of em can actually outgun their asses. Arming yourself for personal protection is one thing, but arming yourself because you think it makes you all powerful and entitled to get your by force and dominate others is delusional.........And potentially deadly for those dumb enough to think that it's going to work in this day and age.
You sound ignorant of the extreme seriousness of the burden carried by those who decide to carry weapons for self-defense. The fact that you would even consider using an automatic weapon for such a role shows just how ignorant you really are. They're fun to shoot, but it's virtually impossible to use one against a target without causing some kind of collateral damage. And in the world outside a warzone, collateral damage is absolutely 100% unacceptable in any way, shape, or form. If you shoot an intruder in your house with an automatic weapon, and a few rounds miss (which they will) - and go through your wall and hit a neighbor - *you will go to jail*. *for murder*. And worse than that, you have committed - intentionally or not - an act which cannot be forgiven, and you've destroyed many people's lives. It's bad enough when you're forced to do this to a person who means to do you serious harm, you're not likely to ever be the same person again - but it's another thing entirely to take a life which you didn't mean to take, which was completely innocent and meant no harm to you. You stop being one who would take a stand to protect himself and his loved ones, and become the very thing that those of us who carry mean to protect ourselves against.
That burden is the burden that *everyone* who carries faces. That's the realization that I came to walking out of the gun show with my carry gun - that gripped me every minute of the way home. If you choose to carry, you need to come to that realization too - because the consequences of you *not* coming to that realization are just too high.
Look who's stereotyping!
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It's called sarcasm.
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More like VAPORIZE a good burger!
Screw your death laser design, vapor burgers are obviously the next big thing
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More like VAPORIZE a good burger!
Screw your death laser design, vapor burgers are obviously the next big thing
Pretty sure people generally prefer not to inhale food like that....Causes choking.
More like VAPORIZE a good burger!
Screw your death laser design, vapor burgers are obviously the next big thing
Pretty sure people generally prefer not to inhale food like that....Causes choking.
You pansy, toke that s**t up
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Maybe rednecks don't like the idea that somebody who aint one of em can actually outgun their asses. Arming yourself for personal protection is one thing, but arming yourself because you think it makes you all powerful and entitled to get your by force and dominate others is delusional.........And potentially deadly for those dumb enough to think that it's going to work in this day and age.
You sound ignorant of the extreme seriousness of the burden carried by those who decide to carry weapons for self-defense. The fact that you would even consider using an automatic weapon for such a role shows just how ignorant you really are. They're fun to shoot, but it's virtually impossible to use one against a target without causing some kind of collateral damage. And in the world outside a warzone, collateral damage is absolutely 100% unacceptable in any way, shape, or form. If you shoot an intruder in your house with an automatic weapon, and a few rounds miss (which they will) - and go through your wall and hit a neighbor - *you will go to jail*. *for murder*. And worse than that, you have committed - intentionally or not - an act which cannot be forgiven, and you've destroyed many people's lives. It's bad enough when you're forced to do this to a person who means to do you serious harm, you're not likely to ever be the same person again - but it's another thing entirely to take a life which you didn't mean to take, which was completely innocent and meant no harm to you. You stop being one who would take a stand to protect himself and his loved ones, and become the very thing that those of us who carry mean to protect ourselves against.
That burden is the burden that *everyone* who carries faces. That's the realization that I came to walking out of the gun show with my carry gun - that gripped me every minute of the way home. If you choose to carry, you need to come to that realization too - because the consequences of you *not* coming to that realization are just too high.
I am aware that automatic weapons do indeed result in collateral damage when fired. However, I was not talking about actually CARRYING ONE for use in self-defense! An AK-47 cannot be easily concealed on your person. If you live in a densely populated urban area, then shooting off an AK on full auto, especially inside of an apartment or a small house with little space between the other houses, can result in stray bullets which pass through walls and can strike and kill innocent people. But suppose that you live out in a more rural area, where the distance between your neighbors house and your house is at least 1000 feet?
Since most people these days know what an AK-47 is and what it looks like, if somebody sees you come out of your house with an AK they are likely to be scared sh*tless and run off. So the point of having one is that you almost never have to actually use it as long as people are aware that you possess one and especially if it's fully automatic. Few people mess with a guy who has a true assault rifle.
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Maybe rednecks don't like the idea that somebody who aint one of em can actually outgun their asses. Arming yourself for personal protection is one thing, but arming yourself because you think it makes you all powerful and entitled to get your by force and dominate others is delusional.........And potentially deadly for those dumb enough to think that it's going to work in this day and age.
You sound ignorant of the extreme seriousness of the burden carried by those who decide to carry weapons for self-defense. The fact that you would even consider using an automatic weapon for such a role shows just how ignorant you really are. They're fun to shoot, but it's virtually impossible to use one against a target without causing some kind of collateral damage. And in the world outside a warzone, collateral damage is absolutely 100% unacceptable in any way, shape, or form. If you shoot an intruder in your house with an automatic weapon, and a few rounds miss (which they will) - and go through your wall and hit a neighbor - *you will go to jail*. *for murder*. And worse than that, you have committed - intentionally or not - an act which cannot be forgiven, and you've destroyed many people's lives. It's bad enough when you're forced to do this to a person who means to do you serious harm, you're not likely to ever be the same person again - but it's another thing entirely to take a life which you didn't mean to take, which was completely innocent and meant no harm to you. You stop being one who would take a stand to protect himself and his loved ones, and become the very thing that those of us who carry mean to protect ourselves against.
That burden is the burden that *everyone* who carries faces. That's the realization that I came to walking out of the gun show with my carry gun - that gripped me every minute of the way home. If you choose to carry, you need to come to that realization too - because the consequences of you *not* coming to that realization are just too high.
I am aware that automatic weapons do indeed result in collateral damage when fired. However, I was not talking about actually CARRYING ONE for use in self-defense! An AK-47 cannot be easily concealed on your person. If you live in a densely populated urban area, then shooting off an AK on full auto, especially inside of an apartment or a small house with little space between the other houses, can result in stray bullets which pass through walls and can strike and kill innocent people. But suppose that you live out in a more rural area, where the distance between your neighbors house and your house is at least 1000 feet?
Since most people these days know what an AK-47 is and what it looks like, if somebody sees you come out of your house with an AK they are likely to be scared sh*tless and run off. So the point of having one is that you almost never have to actually use it as long as people are aware that you possess one and especially if it's fully automatic. Few people mess with a guy who has a true assault rifle.
a) recklessness is recklessness, regardless of where you happen to be.
b) you can get a semi-auto AK. Nobody is going to be able to tell the difference. Unless you're suggesting firing rounds as a "warning shot" - which, again, shows your ignorance.
c) I have no desire whatsoever to continue this conversation - you should take a look at the fact that many of the pro-gun members on this thread had the same reaction that I did, and take that to mean something.
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If you want something to "intimidate" a potential attacker, get a 12 gauge pump action shot-gun. The sound it makes when you pull the pump handle and chamber a round is well known enough to make everyone think twice. If you also load it with something like:
1. Bird shot
2. Buck shot
3. Deer slug
You get two warning shots and 1 final shot. Most reasonable people are going to think twice period if they know you have a gun, and most guns have a degree of intimidation factor. Unless you carry a pink 1911 or something. Personally, I keep a katana as a "self-defense" weapon in my house, because I figure a 6.2 guy wielding a sword is fairly f*****g intimidating.
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