AspiePrincess611
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18 Oct 2020, 6:00 pm
18 Oct 2020, 6:05 pm
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I don't understand what purpose is served by an excess of kindness.
I'm willing to bet you'll learn sometime.
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AspiePrincess611
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18 Oct 2020, 6:05 pm
TheRobotLives wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
magz wrote:
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
If you didn't work to earn that Social Security and Medicare, you don't deserve any free handouts.
Are you saying that those who worked as little as possible but e.g. have rich parents don't deserve their comforts, too?I think the idea that AspiePrincess611 is putting forward is that "social security" and "Medicare", given that they are funded by society, should have some form of return provided to society (for example, a paid job, voluntary\community work, etc. within the recipient's capacity) by the recipient, and not be seen (or treated) as an "entitlement".
Your example, however, relates to private property, where the owner can elect (or decline) to utilise it as they wish, within the law. In this case it is only a single person\couple choosing, and so the "givers" have much more control\visibility over their "gift", along with control over what (if anything) is expected in return. It could be that the presence\existence of the children is seen as adequate "return" to the parents for their largesse.
*Entitlement attitude* is the fundamental problem.
1. "health care is a right"
2. claiming to be a victim of capitalism
3. small business owners should not be in business, if they cannot pay a "living wage"
4. demanding college be free
5. complaining others have too much more than them
6. develop a victim complex
7. blame others for your problems
Another wise WP user
High five However, I do feel that health care is a right. You shouldn't be allowed to die or suffer simply because you can't pay the medical bills. That is just cruel. And medical bills are very expensive.
18 Oct 2020, 6:09 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Now people are still practicing that ideology but in other ways by guising it as "we shouldn't waste our time trying to save everyone" and "we need to sacrifice the elderly and the weaker people."
Maybe in America.
That place is a sad mess, in areas.
Here in Australia, the feeling is to protect the vulnerable, and open up the economy.
Not rocket surgery.
18 Oct 2020, 6:11 pm
Norway made a LOT of money making universities public. Complaints that the 1% has too much more that everyone else are completely valid, nobody can spend that much money in 50 lifetimes. If it's not taxed, it's a black hole.
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AspiePrincess611
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18 Oct 2020, 6:13 pm
18 Oct 2020, 6:22 pm
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
I'm willing to bet I won't, and hope I don't. I see though you're just trying to push my buttons. Others have never been very kind to me, and being kind has gotten me nowhere in life. I rely mostly on logic, and plan to continue doing so. Logically, from a biological standpoint, it does not make sense to allow all humans to live forever. Our planet cannot sustain this without a simultaneous reduction of reproduction. Perhaps the "kindest" thing for many of the critically ill and elderly people who have died is that nature took its course in the form of a virus and they are put out of their misery.
O/T
18 Oct 2020, 6:37 pm
I see you are very busy evolving so I'll leave you to it. Good luck ignoring what's really good.
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AspiePrincess611
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19 Oct 2020, 8:13 am
Pepe wrote:
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
I'm willing to bet I won't, and hope I don't. I see though you're just trying to push my buttons. Others have never been very kind to me, and being kind has gotten me nowhere in life. I rely mostly on logic, and plan to continue doing so. Logically, from a biological standpoint, it does not make sense to allow all humans to live forever. Our planet cannot sustain this without a simultaneous reduction of reproduction. Perhaps the "kindest" thing for many of the critically ill and elderly people who have died is that nature took its course in the form of a virus and they are put out of their misery.
O/T
I agree 100%. And I know from experience, at least for me, the process of giving birth and raising children really sucks. I did it once, wouldn't consider doing it again.
AspiePrincess611
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19 Oct 2020, 2:13 pm
19 Oct 2020, 9:29 pm
AspiePrincess611 wrote:
cberg wrote:
I see you are very busy evolving so I'll leave you to it. Good luck ignoring what's really good.
It's not that I don't get the point of being nice - I totally do get it. It makes me feel good to help someone out or make someone happy. It's just the concept of having your personal freedom taken away for the benefit of a small minority that rubs me the wrong way. I just don't feel it's my DUTY to protect anyone. Each person should be responsible for themselves. And if someone is already dying....And being "kind" and "nice" just comes naturally to some people. I don't think I'm one of them, at least not towards many adult humans. Animals and kids are a different story. I'm always compassionate and kind to animals and kids.
Well then,
My being a skunk will serve me well if I get hit on Route 66 and need assistance from you.
20 Oct 2020, 2:53 am
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