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02 Feb 2013, 8:31 pm

puddingmouse wrote:

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ripped wrote:

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Did you notice I never even used that P word?
I have a far higher opinion of honest and reputable sex workers than I will ever have of the plethora of women who have starved themselves and me of sex.

This is a nice merlot.

Please state your meaning. I am unfamiliar with that term.

It's a type of wine. I've made my decision to not discuss this with and to get drunk instead.

Prefer a drink to a man then?

I prefer women to men.

I prefer drink to discussing with people who don't like women. I adore women. I only like talking to people who also love women.

You hide behind an insinuation of misogyny to prevent further discussion of the impression that women are generally sexually dysfunctional or sexually non functional?

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02 Feb 2013, 8:36 pm

ripped wrote:

You hide behind an insinuation of misogyny to prevent further discussion of the impression that women are generally sexually dysfunctional or sexually non functional?

My experience says otherwise. :wink:

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02 Feb 2013, 8:37 pm

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we aren't like anyone else though, being alone sucks.

I've never had sex, but I'd imagine that maybe it might help give me a sense of normalcy, all I want to do is fit in and I think this goes for quite a few aspies. I don't think there's a chance in hell I'll ever pay for it, but it's the decisions of someone else, not mine. I'm not going to intrude on their decisions.

I'm not intruding on anyone's decisions. I'm just questioning whether they are fulfilling a need or a want when paying for sex.

a difficult question to answer. part of me says it's want, part of me says it's nature. both of which can be argued.

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I prefer women to men.

I prefer drink to discussing with people who don't like women. I adore women. I only like talking to people who also love women.

that sounds incredibly close minded and biased, that or you're trying to end coherent conversation and/or troll the other guy.

your feminist view reminds me, wasn't the whole 80s feminist movement about sexual freedoms and such?

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02 Feb 2013, 8:41 pm

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I find it too stressful to talk with people (male or female) who don't like women. I like women that much.

The way he was talking about honest sex workers vs. other women (implying that those women are all deceptive and sexually dysfunctional) made me 'clock' that his attitude to women is not particularly loving, as I understand it.

Plus, I don't want him to waste his time talking to me. Since I'm obviously a closed minded feminist, and all.

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02 Feb 2013, 8:52 pm

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well, some of what you've written here does make you sound a bit like a close minded feminist. some of his statements were a bit derogatory and instigative however and so I can agree with you there.

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02 Feb 2013, 9:01 pm

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well, some of what you've written here does make you sound a bit like a close minded feminist. some of his statements were a bit derogatory and instigative however and so I can agree with you there.

I'm glad I sound like a feminist because I consider myself to be one.

As for closed-minded, well I have an opinion and I think it's the right one, or else I wouldn't hold it. People tend to call that closed-mindedness more often when women do it than men. For the record, I have changed my opinions many times in my life - when experience or argumentation has taught me that I was originally wrong.

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02 Feb 2013, 10:48 pm

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You condemn be upon the basis of your own prejudices, and then insinuate a very derogatory condemnation about me.
Then you abandon the conversation. A weak and lazy response.

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Plus, I don't want him to waste his time talking to me. Since I'm obviously a closed minded feminist, and all.

If you have no interest in resolving issues between our genders ( if not between ourselves ) then why are you posting here?
By avoiding the issue, you fail to make any headway toward resolving it.

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02 Feb 2013, 10:50 pm

It's irresolvable. Haters gonna hate.

And what would you consider 'resolving' this to be? Me saying 'yes, sex is a fundamental need and a human right for heterosexual males and all the women who don't have sex with men on demand are mean b*****s'. You're as unlikely to budge from your position as I am from mine. In fact, you're probably even more unlikely to budge than me.

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02 Feb 2013, 10:50 pm

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I am relieved that you are capable of changing your mind, but you refuse to accord that same generosity to others.

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02 Feb 2013, 10:55 pm

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I am relieved that you are capable of changing your mind, but you refuse to accord that same generosity to others.

In my experience, most people are extremely stubborn with their opinions and hate you for even voicing an opposing one.

I think I'm actually more flexible in my beliefs than most people. It's just that I don't shy away from voicing the beliefs I do hold.

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02 Feb 2013, 11:00 pm

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I am relieved that you are capable of changing your mind, but you refuse to accord that same generosity to others.

I don't hate you. And I welcome the opportunity to have a sensible discussion.

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02 Feb 2013, 11:12 pm

puddingmouse wrote:

I think I'm actually more flexible in my beliefs than most people. It's just that I don't shy away from voicing the beliefs I do hold.

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02 Feb 2013, 11:12 pm

Okay then. It's my experience that women aren't sexually dysfunctional. I could have no-strings sex with a woman quite easily if I wanted to (and I have done in the past).

I also don't see sex as a fundamental need because I've gone years without having it. I think we're socialised to see ourselves as not complete without it. The psychological benefits of having sex only really kick in when you have a partner, as well. I've had one night stands and they did nothing for me emotionally. If prostitution is doing anything it's satisfying ego (not really necessary because I believe ego is harmful) and satisfying physical sexual urges (which can be sorted out through masturbation). I don't think there is anything indispensable about seeing a prostitute. I think it's something that people want to do, not need to do. I wouldn't mind if people just admitted it was a preference, rather than some kind of human right.

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02 Feb 2013, 11:13 pm

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These are your words, not mine.
You are playing into typical stereotypes here, which means in my case you are wrong.
I have never said such a thing and I never will say such a thing as I don't believe your statement above either.

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You're as unlikely to budge from your position as I am from mine. In fact, you're probably even more unlikely to budge than me.

Then for the sake of the forum and this issue overall, would you please explain your opposition to legalised prostitution?

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02 Feb 2013, 11:14 pm

Chaos_Epoch wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

I think I'm actually more flexible in my beliefs than most people. It's just that I don't shy away from voicing the beliefs I do hold.

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02 Feb 2013, 11:16 pm

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Then for the sake of the forum and this issue overall, would you please explain your opposition to legalised prostitution?

I don't oppose it. I just don't think it's indispensable.

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