Donald Trump is not a Bigot or Racist..

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Why?

Why do you dislike Hillary?

Personally I admire her quite a bit.

What's this statement mean, please? (I know it's regarding Bernie.)

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I find it hypocritical that Bernie wanted people to support him on the grounds that he is more principled than Hillary. He initially rejected the Brady Bill but later on flip flopped in 2015 to support it.

Could you rephrase that in a way that makes sense?



99.9% of people were subjugated by men and women of station. That's been the case throughout most of human history. The divide was one of class, not sex. If you'd actually read my posts you might have picked up on that.



Or an entire gender. See above.

It depends on which statistic you want to analyse. The breakdown is not important to the point I was making though.



In your original heroic foray into this thread a few pages back, putting to one side the male/female discrepancies, which is a slightly different topic:



You then fire off the usual whites do better than blacks in XYZ (true) which according to you is a result of racism. Whites using their power of majority nefariously to keep a brotha down. However there are ethnic & cultural groups in the US that do better than whites almost across the board. Google median income by race, crime rates by race and other stats. Off the top of my head I recall Asians-Americans have a higher median income than whites and a lower crime rate, they are killing it in educational achievements too.

Are Asians and Jews privileged? Are they keeping Whites down? If Whites are keeping Black people down, why aren't they using that same magical power on Asians and Jews? It seems obvious that racism is not the answer and other factors are involved. If evil-white-guy theory were true, we'd be on top of EVERYTHING.

In my "crazypants" right wing world (o7 wilburforce) it's obvious: different groups of people are DIFFERENT and will achieve and behave differently. In crazypants left wing world, if you don't ignore the gaping hole in the theory, you then construct a pile of steaming horses**t about the legacy of slavery and something something... oh it's the white mans fault again. Quelle surprise. Figured out your motivations yet? I should rather say, have you figured out what you have been brainwashed into?



It's certainly true White men have tolerated an extraordinary amount of abuse directed at them and barely raised a whisper of complaint. I think those days are over, thank God.



Hehe forum has been a bit slow lately, not much peaking my interest. I pop in to the daily I hate Trump thread now and again.

Melinda Byerley has more advice on how to be more tolerant of diversity.



I'm sure she mean to include "Christian" too, but there's a 140 character limit you know.

Trump is saying and writing racist statements, he showed racism in his past behaviors and he's now appoint racists at the head of important governments offices; seem to me that all elements on which we can try to judge his future behavior show that he will be racist. (I know that I go rather far back on the thread...)

Why, WHICH?

If you meant why "anybody but Hillary": It's because I think Hillary's a SNAKE----I feel she's the type of person who smiles in your face, and then bites you in the butt. I'm thinking she would almost sell her own mother down-the-river, if she thought it would advance her (Hillary), in some way.

If you were asking "why VP Biden"----it's because he seems to shoot from the hip, and I really like that.

See above.

Okay, I think I see where you're comin'-from, now----PHEW!! THANKS!!

And my point was, so what? That does not mean that they do not suffer racial prejudice and it does not negate the fact that most other minority do not have a high mean income. Also, you can not just site some absolute number prove a point comparing to groups of unequal size. You have to compare the rates for each group.

Here is this argument simplified. I have 10,000 pennies. Trump doesn't have that many pennies. I am wealthier that Trump.




why does not Trump and I have the same amount of money? Maybe because we grew up in different families under different conditions.

If Asians (Jews are all you) had been brought here as slaves and treated the same as black people, then we would expect similar conditions, but they have very different histories, even within the groups there is a great deal of heterogeneity.




I am a botanist/ecologist and one of the important concepts to understand when trying restore a degraded site is that it is unlikely to return to the same exact condition or even something similar, because it is starting from a different point.

If you and I were racing and you started a mile away from the finish line and I started 0.5 miles away, would you expect us to cross at the same time?





All I can say is that you need to spend more time with other people and try to understand things from their perspective, because this idea is divorced from reality.

I was in the army when a lot of the big issue with race and sex were being dealt with for the 3rd or 4th time(not the last), and you saw all of these white males feeling oppressed because they could make fun of black people and getting all whiny because they could sexually harass women.

If you think men, particularly white men are oppressed...I am not even sure what to say other than you must come from some privileged world where you do not have to mix with the lessor folk.

I do like the crazypants name, should we call you that from now on? If not I will take it.

Bernie Sanders was using the flip flopping or Hillary to criticize her. The point I am trying to make is that Bernie Sanders can't really call himself the better candidate in that regard since he has done those exact same things.