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03 Dec 2010, 11:34 am

No, Williams says fear is good, fear counteracts the insidious paralysing agent, Political Correctness, which will inevitably cause an aircraft to end up at the bottom of the ocean because of those Islamic fiends flaunting their Evil. Only by recognising the paralysing agent for what it is and inoculating people against it, by getting people to fear Muslims and support profiling and harassment, can lives be saved.

Williams by the way just did it again with an astoudingly evil comment today. This man should be destroyed.

When he said that political correctness is a paralysing agent keeping people from defending themselves against Evil Muslims ,that's when the mask slipped, this is when he exposed himself, and this is why NPR got rid of him.



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03 Dec 2010, 11:41 am

xenon13 wrote:
No, Williams says fear is good, fear counteracts the insidious paralysing agent, Political Correctness, which will inevitably cause an aircraft to end up at the bottom of the ocean because of those Islamic fiends flaunting their Evil. Only by recognising the paralysing agent for what it is and inoculating people against it, by getting people to fear Muslims and support profiling and harassment, can lives be saved.


That is not what he said and you know it.

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Williams by the way just did it again with an astoudingly evil comment today. This man should be destroyed.


Funny thing is, you just proved Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to be right. So if someone doesn't agree with your line of thinking, they are evil and must be destroyed. Seriously, you need to calm down and stop listening to whatever crackpot that gave you those ideas, because you are being seriously misled towards a path of outright bigotry.



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03 Dec 2010, 3:56 pm

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“I think that some of this predisposition towards Fox was the reason for the gotcha,” Jackson said. “If they did not want his point of view, they should have said, ‘When your contract is over, you do not fit into our scheme of things.’ And then (he’d) go gracefully and with dignity. But to fire him in that way, and then to suggest he should see a psychiatrist, it was beneath the character and reputation of NPR.”
That is just what we should expect from the Pinko Stinko Michael Moor Liberals.

NPR is not left wing. They are just virulently opposed to Fox News. It appears they didn't want Juan Williams going on Fox News period. That was the real reason they fired him.

That said they'd never let someone like Michael Moore work as an op-ed or analyst for them either. They aren't keen on demagoguery from either side of the political isle.



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03 Dec 2010, 4:14 pm

marshall wrote:
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“I think that some of this predisposition towards Fox was the reason for the gotcha,” Jackson said. “If they did not want his point of view, they should have said, ‘When your contract is over, you do not fit into our scheme of things.’ And then (he’d) go gracefully and with dignity. But to fire him in that way, and then to suggest he should see a psychiatrist, it was beneath the character and reputation of NPR.”
That is just what we should expect from the Pinko Stinko Michael Moor Liberals.

NPR is not left wing. They are just virulently opposed to Fox News. It appears they didn't want Juan Williams going on Fox News period. That was the real reason they fired him.


They also had just received a donation from George Soros only days before they fired Juan Williams. Furthermore, don't make me drag out Juan William's, Rush Limbaugh's, Bill O'Reilly's, etc. documentation about NPR's liberal bias (and outright partisanship).


So the motive, if you will, is clear: Fox is bad. If Soros is willing to drop seven figures to slime the channel, he clearly does not like it. And neither does NPR, which fired Williams for what many - including Williams himself - believe was his closeness with the cable channel, and its star prime time talker Bill O'Reilly.

We also have correlation. Two days after the Fox-hating Soros donated to Fox-hating NPR, Williams was fired.


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-ma ... days-later

Such as one of their people publicly saying on the air they hoped a sitting Senator or his grandson would catch AIDS and die. That individual never apologized and still works at NPR. Reason I remember this is cause Fox News got ahold of the tape where the person made those comments and played it on several programs.


In a Thursday post, “Is Nina Totenberg Next? NPR's legal affairs correspondent frequently expresses her pro-Democratic opinion,” the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes recited several examples in recent weeks of Totenberg sharing her liberal opinions on Inside Washington, including one lifted by Reason.com’s Michael C. Moynihan from the MRC’s site, which embedded our video from YouTube. That quote was a runner-up in the MRC’s 1999 “I'm a Compassionate Liberal But I Wish You Were All Dead Award (for media hatred of conservatives)” at the our very first DisHonors Awards dinner/gala. In 1995, she venomously spouted about Senator Jesse Helms:

I think he ought to be worried about what's going on in the Good Lord's mind, because if there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-bake ... iring-juan

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That said they'd never let someone like Michael Moore work as an op-ed or analyst for them either. They aren't keen on demagoguery from either side of the political isle.


Looks to me like they already have someone like Michael Moore working for them, her name is: Nina Totenberg.



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03 Dec 2010, 4:22 pm

I snicker every time you say, "Soros."



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03 Dec 2010, 4:58 pm

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I snicker every time you say, "Soros."


I'm talking about this George Soros:

PARIS — The highest court in France on Wednesday rejected a bid by George Soros, the billionaire investor, to overturn a conviction for insider trading in a case dating back nearly 20 years, leaving the first blemish on his five-decade investing career.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/busin ... 74397.html

And the Times goes into a sob story about how he was wronged.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/b ... jXueVQcFTJ

NPR has received a $1.8 million grant from the Open Society Foundations to begin a project called Impact of Government that is intended to add at least 100 journalists at NPR member radio stations in all 50 states over the next three years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/18/busin ... 18npr.html

For those of you whom don't know Open Society Foundations. Google: Soros Open Society

I came up with
http://www.soros.org/

His own website. :lol:

Hmmm, looks like Glenn Beck is telling the truth AGAIN.

Soros provided the following definition of an open society in his article, "The Capitalist Threat," in the February 1997 "Atlantic Monthly": "Societies derive their cohesion from shared values . . . religion, history, and tradition. When a society does not have boundaries where are the shared values to be found? . . . the concept of the open society itself."
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/art ... 4735.shtml

I'm going to take newsmax with a grain of salt on this one cause I don't have any reference to have an opinion on them one way or the other.

http://www.amazon.com/Open-Society-Refo ... 1586480197

Hmmm...

A STUDY that claimed 650,000 people were killed as a result of the invasion of Iraq was partly funded by the antiwar billionaire George Soros.

Soros, 77, provided almost half the £50,000 cost of the research, which appeared in The Lancet, the medical journal. Its claim was 10 times higher than consensus estimates of the number of war dead.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 177653.ece

To use basketball terms: "Glenn Beck is on fire."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... n_Progress

George Soros again...

I'm not even really trying to find information about him. Just google him and you'll find stuff.



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04 Dec 2010, 7:27 pm

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Hmmm, looks like Glenn Beck is telling the truth AGAIN
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To use basketball terms: "Glenn Beck is on fire."


Fox news is nothing more than right wing propaganda pretending to be news. They mix opinions in with facts without distinguishing which are which, and are quite often wrong about their facts. Beck and Limbaugh are both idiots. I've seen both of them spread misinformation more often than not, so don't try to tell me either or both of them are "on fire."

You believe whatever you want to believe, fine. Listen to or watch whatever news source you prefer, fine. Your sources are telling you what you want to hear. Try opening your mind to other possibilities instead of taking so much from authority, which seems to be a characteristic of the conservative mindset as recent psychological studies have shown.


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04 Dec 2010, 7:40 pm

TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
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Hmmm, looks like Glenn Beck is telling the truth AGAIN
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To use basketball terms: "Glenn Beck is on fire."


Fox news is nothing more than right wing propaganda pretending to be news. They mix opinions in with facts without distinguishing which are which, and are quite often wrong about their facts. Beck and Limbaugh are both idiots. I've seen both of them spread misinformation more often than not, so don't try to tell me either or both of them are "on fire."


So you are going to dispute the information that I found from the guy's own website? I don't believe Soros' website was hacked recently.

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You believe whatever you want to believe, fine. Listen to or watch whatever news source you prefer, fine. Your sources are telling you what you want to hear. Try opening your mind to other possibilities instead of taking so much from authority, which seems to be a characteristic of the conservative mindset as recent psychological studies have shown.


Actually you're the one being closeminded, cause last I checked NY Times was left wing. You know you fit the classic definition of what Conservatives stereotype liberals as: Obnoxious Elitists that think they know a lot more than they actually do.



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04 Dec 2010, 7:58 pm

Williams' latest remark can be described by what a conservative critic said of "Atlas Shrugged", that every page cries out "To a gas chamber, go". In this case, Williams thinks the unemployed should do this. This man is clearly evil and must be destroyed. This man has not the right to spew his venom on the public airwaves or media, he should be reduced to shouting on a soapbox in some speakers' corner somewhere.



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04 Dec 2010, 8:09 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Williams' latest remark can be described by what a conservative critic said of "Atlas Shrugged", that every page cries out "To a gas chamber, go". In this case, Williams thinks the unemployed should do this. This man is clearly evil and must be destroyed. This man has not the right to spew his venom on the public airwaves or media, he should be reduced to shouting on a soapbox in some speakers' corner somewhere.


What the heck are you talking about?



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04 Dec 2010, 8:12 pm

Williams said that people unemployed for too long are unsalvageable and damaged beyond repair and that benefits should be cut off - they should be written off as lost causes and be forced to eke out existences scavenging at the dump. He claimed that to do otherwise also is a crime against the "work ethic". Williams is the lowest filth.



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04 Dec 2010, 8:13 pm

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So you are going to dispute the information that I found from the guy's own website? I don't believe Soros' website was hacked recently.


Whether or not Beck is correct this time does not change the fact that he and Limbaugh spew a lot of lies and distortions of the truth quite often, way too much for me to trust them as a reliable source of information.

I have an open mind to truth, and accept it as it is whether or not I like it. There are intellectual conservatives who argue their positions with facts and logic reasonably and forcefully, but Beck and Limbaugh are rabble rousers pure and simple. They do it for the ratings and to serve the right wing agenda which owes much of its support not to facts and logic but to fear and ignorance.


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04 Dec 2010, 8:18 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Williams' latest remark can be described by what a conservative critic said of "Atlas Shrugged", that every page cries out "To a gas chamber, go". In this case, Williams thinks the unemployed should do this. This man is clearly evil and must be destroyed. This man has not the right to spew his venom on the public airwaves or media, he should be reduced to shouting on a soapbox in some speakers' corner somewhere.


The comment was narrow minded to be certain but he didn't recommend suicide or murder at all. Unless of course your talking about financial suicide in which case the comparison could be fair. Also in America we have the right to spew venom, its can be sucky at times but its not your place to strip others of their rights.



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04 Dec 2010, 8:21 pm

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Williams said that people unemployed for too long are unsalvageable and damaged beyond repair and that benefits should be cut off - they should be written off as lost causes and be forced to eke out existences scavenging at the dump. He claimed that to do otherwise also is a crime against the "work ethic". Williams is the lowest filth.


No he didn't, he naively suggested they take part time jobs which don't exist. He also said that unemployment harms your work ethic, but he did not say such people where unsalvageable. nor did he make reference to work ethic as some sacred concept which must be defended, your raving mad.



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04 Dec 2010, 9:30 pm

TheBicyclingGuitarist wrote:
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So you are going to dispute the information that I found from the guy's own website? I don't believe Soros' website was hacked recently.


Whether or not Beck is correct this time does not change the fact that he and Limbaugh spew a lot of lies and distortions of the truth quite often, way too much for me to trust them as a reliable source of information.


Thing is if Beck were lieing about everything the mainstream media would be having a field day picking what he says apart piece by piece and using it to destroy Fox News.

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I have an open mind to truth, and accept it as it is whether or not I like it. There are intellectual conservatives who argue their positions with facts and logic reasonably and forcefully, but Beck and Limbaugh are rabble rousers pure and simple. They do it for the ratings and to serve the right wing agenda which owes much of its support not to facts and logic but to fear and ignorance.


Oh you forget one key tidbit, how much news agencies in the MSM hate Fox News and would have a field day going after Glenn Beck if he just started spewing random garbage. Again, Glenn Beck was one of the people whom refused to comment about Shirley Sherrod because he didn't have all the facts to comment on it.



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04 Dec 2010, 9:56 pm

I am not an expert on everything, so I don't know whether or not Beck is lying about everything. However, Beck and Limbaugh have both recently made asinine statements about evolution that show abysmal ignorance of the overwhelming evidence and of how science works. Their stated opinions on evolution are SO ret*d and out of touch with reality that if they are SO wrong about something I DO know about, it makes me seriously question their credibility on other matters.

Plus their rants against global warming: apparently the consensus of the scientific community is a "conspiracy." And regarding Obama, I do respect that Beck had the guts to speak out against the birthers. Limbaugh on the other hand saying he hopes Obama fails seems anti-American to me. Whether or not one voted for the candidate that wins, one should (in my opinion) respect the office and at least give the guy a chance. Saying he hopes Obama fails is (to me) not very much different from saying he hopes America fails, I'm sure he would (and probably you too) disagree, but the type of right wing theocracy we would have if the Republicans had their way completely would be hell and far from the intentions of our founding fathers.

Republicans favor the super rich at the expense of everyone else. Okay, maybe the founding fathers would have gone for that, being rich themselves, But forcing everyone to live by any group's interpretation of the Bible goes against the Constitution quite plainly as well as being contrary to the expressed intentions of those who wrote the Constitution. Another thing that offends me about the religious right is how they try to rewrite history, just as wrong as the Nazi revisionists (apparently we have at least one active in these forums).

Like I said, I am not an expert on every subject, but I'm no dummy and there are some subjects I know a lot more about than most people do. I also have fifty years life experience and have been a voting adult at least the past thirty years, so I've kept up some with the issues of local, state, national and international politics. I don't trust politicians of any party as far as I can throw them, but at least the liberals seem like they try more to help humanity and save the planet instead of just makiing the rich richer and raping and poisoning the planet (while denying they are doing it) as the Republicans too. Also, if the Republicans claim to have the Christian values, why do they favor the rich so much? And they are hypocrites to say they represent individual freedom when they are the ones who legislate the most against it.

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