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As a matter of fact, I did, and I submit that the reason liberal estimation of conservatives' beliefs may contradict what conservatives themselves report to pollsters because certain conservatives (particularly extreme right-wing ones) often lie to disguise how morally repugnant their beliefs truly are. As an example, wingnuts oppose welfare and affirmative action primarily because they believe in white supremacy, yet few wingnuts are honest enough to admit to being racist.

At the time it was believed that Iraq did have WMD's. Of course, we'll never know for sure what they had since they had plenty of time to move things out and destroy/hide evidence once the invasion started.
The Clinton regime cut intelligence spending that would have enabled us to get better intel but we can't very well blame good old Bill when we have George Jr. to kick around. There even times when Iraq denied UN inspectors access to certain areas but whatever............
I'm sure your love of Islam and hatred of republicans will insist that you come back with something but i don't know if I'll bother to read it or not......

Who says I love Islam? Just because I defend the rights of Muslim Americans? In that case, the operative word is American.
And as a matter of fact, not everyone believed Iraq had WMD's anymore, to begin with.
And I don't hate Republicans, but I dislike strongly the Republican party's embracing of religious extremism, plutocracy, and the heartless ideology of Ayn Rand.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Who says I love Islam? Just because I defend the rights of Muslim Americans? In that case, the operative word is American.
And as a matter of fact, not everyone believed Iraq had WMD's anymore, to begin with.
And I don't hate Republicans, but I dislike strongly the Republican party's embracing of religious extremism, plutocracy, and the heartless ideology of Ayn Rand.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Again, I'm defending the rights of Americans of the Muslim faith who have been derided as unpatriotic and potential terrorists, not the reprehensible behavior of those Islamic believers who are mostly overseas.
And while you may not have ever heard of Ayn Rand prior to coming to WP, that's hardly the case for rabid Republican activists who are threatening the soul of their party.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Again, I'm defending the rights of Americans of the Muslim faith who have been derided as unpatriotic and potential terrorists, not the reprehensible behavior of those Islamic believers who are mostly overseas.

And while you may not have ever heard of Ayn Rand prior to coming to WP, that's hardly the case for rabid Republican activists who are threatening the soul of their party.

By that same token do you defend the rights of the KKK and Aryan Nations? I mean, they condone the same kind of conduct and violation of human rights. Big difference being that the Islamics have several middle eastern countries to practice it in wholesale. Hell, the white supremacy side of the house hasn't had a playground like that since the 3rd reich.




Yes, but according to you and yours here I'M a rabid republican.
Of course, given the source I take it as a compliment and always will...............

Again, I'm defending the rights of Americans of the Muslim faith who have been derided as unpatriotic and potential terrorists, not the reprehensible behavior of those Islamic believers who are mostly overseas.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I would not be so sure.

There are American born Muslim sympathizers to al Queda

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiB32IAUsM

ruveyn

A whole 7%!

I oppose affirmative action and have serious issues with welfare; please, please call me a racist...

Affirmative action works by determining what percentage of qualified women and minorities are available to a company, and then setting a goal for hiring that percentage. For example, suppose a minority makes up 30 percent of the local population, but only 15 percent are qualified for the company's jobs. The goal for the company is 15 percent, not 30 percent. And if the company makes a good-faith effort to reach this goal but fails, then it incurs no legal penalty -- the goal is simply reset for the next year, and the next, and the next, if need be. The courts step in with quotas only in the case of blatant discrimination against clearly qualified minorities.

This puzzle is at the heart of Martin Gilens's compelling book, and his answer can be summed up in a word: race. Americans dislike the programs most commonly called "welfare"-- especially Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) and its successor, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)--not because they are too individualistic to believe in public social provision or too self-interested to pay for it, but because they associate these programs with African Americans. Gilens, a Yale political scientist, traces this connection in the public mind to the mid- to late 1960s, when urban violence drew the spotlight of the national media to ghetto poverty.

But therein lies another paradox. Never have Americans been as tolerant of racial diversity or as supportive of the rights and aspirations of African Americans as in the past few decades (although there is still a long way to travel on both roads). So how can it be that race remains the principal barrier to more generous and universal social policy?

The book's most original contribution is to demonstrate quite ingeniously the distorting impact of the media's focus on urban poverty. Media images of the poor are disproportionately black. While African Americans make up about 30 percent of the poor, about 60 percent of the poor people shown on network television news and depicted in the major newsweeklies between 1988 and 1992 were black. Similarly, the media portray the black poor in a disproportionately negative light. Every single picture in newsweekly stories about the "underclass"--the ghetto poor--between 1950 and 1992 showed African Americans, Gilens finds. In more sympathetic stories about predicaments such as hunger or medical care among the poor, only about one-fourth of the people pictured were black.

As a result of systematic distortion, Americans consistently overestimate the black proportion of the poor and of welfare recipients. More important, however, these slanted images of black poverty evoke age-old stereotypes about African Americans--that they are lazy, unintelligent, and so forth--labeling them as undeserving recipi-ents of public assistance. The white poor more often are seen as striving and hard working, yet helpless in the face of social and economic forces beyond their control.

At the time it was believed that Iraq did have WMD's. Of course, we'll never know for sure what they had since they had plenty of time to move things out and destroy/hide evidence once the invasion started.

Hate groups are one thing, religious affiliation are another. Not every Muslim American - in fact, very few - take part in violating anyone else' rights, but have been assimilated into mainstream American society. It's the heart of bigotry to assume that these citizens are opposed to everything we hold dear simply for sharing the religion of our enemies. By the way, George W. Bush agrees with me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Back to Islam: Here you have a religion that condones (and in some countries actually DOES) whipping of women and killing of gays for excercising rights that you all claim to beleive so strongly in.
I find it a bit ironic how you all can screech so loudly about how mean and intolerant the tea party and republicans are on one hand yet bend over backwards to protect the "rights of a religion that openly preaches and condones hate and intolerance.

Oh, so a group has to be officially christened a hate group by the American Criminal Liberties Union.
Gee, I put a lot of stock in that.......NOT!
I'm getting bored with this so whatever...........

All it takes to blow up a plane is 1.

No, I don't think most American Muslims are terrorists, but I would not rely on them to inform the police if they knew about a terrorist plot. Do you know what I missed?. It was the million American Muslim march against Jihadi Terrorists shortly after 9/11. Perhaps I was asleep and missed it.

ruveyn