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03 Feb 2013, 12:09 am

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I am a man, and I need sex to make me feel human. Every male friend I have who has had sex has the same opinion. What by way of 'proof' do you ask for?

Something that proves men's wellbeing depends on ejaculating into a bodily orifice rather than into a tissue (or a sock, if you want to gross).
I'd like to see a scientific paper that proves men need sex on a physiological level and not just that they need to simply ejaculate (which men do need to do, but can be done solo).

You degrade the entire act of coitus as merely a male ejaculation. Let me tell you the two are different.
Your language is beginning to sound derogatory.

It what sense am I being derogatory?

I know sex isn't male ejaculation. I'm mostly a lesbian, so I know that very well.

I was just saying that men need only to ejaculate from a health POV, to prevent prostate cancer and to release endorphins. I wasn't equating sex with male ejaculation.

I'd just like to see some evidence that being stimulated by another person is needed, not wanted.

Okay, hide behind that.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:10 am

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To hell with your joke, it's a goddamn sore point with so many of us, I don't particularly LIKE having to transform my personality every time I want a little bit of intimacy.

Then don't, you might get more of it that way.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:10 am

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

I am a man, and I need sex to make me feel human. Every male friend I have who has had sex has the same opinion. What by way of 'proof' do you ask for?

You degrade the entire act of coitus as merely a male ejaculation. Let me tell you the two are different.
Your language is beginning to sound derogatory.

Okay, hide behind that.

Hide behind what?

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03 Feb 2013, 12:11 am

puddingmouse wrote:

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To hell with your joke, it's a goddamn sore point with so many of us, I don't particularly LIKE having to transform my personality every time I want a little bit of intimacy.

Then don't, you might get more of it that way.

I think he's saying he gets less of it that way.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:12 am

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

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I'd just like to see some evidence that being stimulated by another person is needed, not wanted.

Okay, hide behind that.

Hide behind what?

The demand for proof before continuing the conversation.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:14 am

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

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I am a man, and I need sex to make me feel human. Every male friend I have who has had sex has the same opinion. What by way of 'proof' do you ask for?

You degrade the entire act of coitus as merely a male ejaculation. Let me tell you the two are different.
Your language is beginning to sound derogatory.

you sound like you're just lonely, "everyone else gets woman and they all hate me or 'friendzone me'".

Shau wrote:

... Thumb down

Try getting one as an Asper. It's bloody f***ing hard.

concurred.

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sex is needed because sex means love. it means someone accepts you for who you are and genuinely likes you. (from a relationship POV that is.)

feeling like you don't have anyone in the world only leads to depression and loneliness. please, go abstinent for a couple of months and don't see anyone who would have sex with you at the drop of a hat. then imagine you fail at most to all social encounters and no one gives you a second glance or sees you in such a way that they would want to start a relationship.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:15 am

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Try getting one as an Asper. It's bloody f***ing hard.

Generalizing about Aspies is dangerous and usually wrong, and this time is no exception. My own experience has been that getting laid is relatively easy, while I'm perfectly aware that other have much more trouble at it, with most falling somewhere in between. My Aspie meetup group has its share of man whores, plus some aging virgins, it's a pretty diverse crowd.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:16 am

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

Shau wrote:

To hell with your joke, it's a goddamn sore point with so many of us, I don't particularly LIKE having to transform my personality every time I want a little bit of intimacy.

Then don't, you might get more of it that way.

I think he's saying he gets less of it that way.

I know.

I think most aspie men who say that women automatically don't like them haven't tried being themselves enough. They just think that women won't like their true selves and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I felt that way myself for years, but now I wouldn't try to alter my personality for anyone and I have more fun that way.

I'm not an aspie man, so I could be wrong. My 'natural' self is definitely odd and awkward, but people (including women) are still attracted to me, moreso when I'm not faking anything. The aspie men I've talked to that are successful in relationships (they exist) are all good at being themselves.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:17 am

You are all such lovely people, I could talk with you all day.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:18 am

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I'd just like to see some evidence that being stimulated by another person is needed, not wanted.

Okay, hide behind that.

Hide behind what?

The demand for proof before continuing the conversation.

I'm not hiding behind that. It's a genuine request that I'm making. If people make assertions (like you did), then other people tend to ask for them to be backed up. It is the nature of debate.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:19 am

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

I'd just like to see some evidence that being stimulated by another person is needed, not wanted.

Okay, hide behind that.

Hide behind what?

The demand for proof before continuing the conversation.

I'm not hiding behind that. It's a genuine request that I'm making. If people make assertions (like you did), then other people tend to ask for them to be backed up. It is the nature of debate.

How about an aspie poll?

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03 Feb 2013, 12:20 am

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Right, I'll make sure to say this calmly instead, I can have a bit of a harsh reaction when people call it "easy" cause for my entire life it's never been anything close to that. I'm a scientist, this means I'm also an empiricist. I've spent the past year trying out various permutations of my personality in order to figure out which ones seem to have the most success.

Unfortunately, my "base" personality, me acting entirely without trying to modify myself, has some of the worst success. It's just how it is. Not all of us were born with personalities that the majority of the opposite sex finds appealing, and I dare say that "odd and awkward" works against males far worse. I could be wrong too...but all of my personal anecdotes and the opinions of countless others seem to back this sentiment.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:23 am

Chaos_Epoch wrote:

I find sex doesn't equal love even in a relationship.

I was abstinent for years. My social skills are not very good. I thought no-one would ever love me and that no-one found me attractive. Having one night stands didn't solve that problem because I think sex =/= love. Plus, I found that I had to love myself, first.

It's not that I don't feel your (and other aspie) males pain - I'm just debating what's a need vs. what's a desire.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:24 am

ripped wrote:

Chaos_Epoch wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

I am a man, and I need sex to make me feel human. Every male friend I have who has had sex has the same opinion. What by way of 'proof' do you ask for?

You degrade the entire act of coitus as merely a male ejaculation. Let me tell you the two are different.
Your language is beginning to sound derogatory.

you sound like you're just lonely, "everyone else gets woman and they all hate me or 'friendzone me'".

it's probably just your own fault, examine yourself before you continue to make an ass of yourself.

Maybe you are just an as*hole?

hurr durr durr, it can't be my fault, it has to be the fault of the womans, god dang b!tc#s and #oe$, all having sex with other people and such, it's a conspiracy I say! it's totally because of them that I can't recognize my own faults, then work towards fixing them in order to better myself in the eyes of others.

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Right, I'll make sure to say this calmly instead, I can have a bit of a harsh reaction when people call it "easy" cause for my entire life it's never been anything close to that. I'm a scientist, this means I'm also an empiricist. I've spent the past year trying out various permutations of my personality in order to figure out which ones seem to have the most success.

Unfortunately, my "base" personality, me acting entirely without trying to modify myself, has some of the worst success. It's just how it is. Not all of us were born with personalities that the majority of humans find appealing, and I dare say that "odd and awkward" works against males far worse. I could be wrong too...but all of my personal anecdotes and the opinions of countless others seem to back this sentiment.

again, concurred.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:26 am

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None of the people with AS that I've ever known have ever come close to finding it easy to get laid. If I'm generalizing here, it's because all of my data points point to one conclusion, not to mention lots of scientific evidence making it abundantly clear that the vast majority of Aspers have trouble socializing, which generally leads directly into trouble wooing the opposite sex.

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03 Feb 2013, 12:26 am

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

ripped wrote:

puddingmouse wrote:

I'd just like to see some evidence that being stimulated by another person is needed, not wanted.

Okay, hide behind that.

Hide behind what?

The demand for proof before continuing the conversation.

I'm not hiding behind that. It's a genuine request that I'm making. If people make assertions (like you did), then other people tend to ask for them to be backed up. It is the nature of debate.

How about an aspie poll?

Opinions don't make facts. The opinions of a bunch of aspie males on a debate forum is not sufficient proof that men need sex.

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