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12 Mar 2012, 4:13 pm

i havent read the thread as it is far too long.

if nobody has posted this yet then here it is:

http://www.angryharry.com

read it and wake up to feminism

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12 Mar 2012, 4:15 pm

"I come bearing great tidings to the women of the world: You no longer have any problems."

If it is satire it is very boring. If it is not satire it is very stupid.

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12 Mar 2012, 4:27 pm

i assume you spent zero time reading it then

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12 Mar 2012, 4:58 pm

Vexcalibur, you got it wrong. i read some of it, and it is more like this:

"women suck, and they are oppressing men. it's all proven by these links to sketchy blogs, anecdotal reports, irrelevant statistics, and quotes taken out of context."

ohhhhhh mannnnnn i can't word it like you. can you fix my attempt, Vexcalibur?

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12 Mar 2012, 5:06 pm

as opposed to the

"all sex is rape. all men are rapists. men sexualise their own daughters. women won the war."

of feminism

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12 Mar 2012, 5:09 pm

TheDarkMage wrote:

as opposed to the

"all sex is rape. all men are rapists. men sexualise their own daughters. women won the war."

of feminism

so you agree that the blog you linked to is hyperbolic drivel? glad we are on the same page.

thankfully, most feminists don't agree with your "quotes", which you can ascertain with a straightforward google search.

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12 Mar 2012, 5:09 pm

TheDarkMage wrote:

as opposed to the

"all sex is rape. all men are rapists. men sexualise their own daughters. women won the war."

of feminism

Holy crap! CITATION NEEDED.

I knew there was a reason I was avoiding this thread. Please, somebody else explain feminism to him. I'm too tired.

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12 Mar 2012, 6:26 pm

"Feminists demand respect but all I want is get laid, it is so unfair I just can't get laid without them asking for respect, I bet they think that all men are rapists. Yeah that explains everything!"

hyperlexian wrote:

I actually just quoted it verbatim that time :/

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12 Mar 2012, 6:32 pm

hahahaha fair enough. when you summarise people's posts by speaking in their ''voice'' it cracks me up, and i thought you were doing that. carry on, nothing to see here.

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13 Mar 2012, 1:08 am

shrox wrote:

I agree with this type of feminism.

My mother was a "Rosie the Riveter" at 17.

you forget the same posters put up afterwards encouraging women to return to the kitchens instead and give those jobs back to the men...

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13 Mar 2012, 1:12 am

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hyperlexian wrote:

nobody coerced me into being the breadwinner while my former husband stayed at home to care for our child and do the housework. and nobody coerced him into it either.

my brand of feminism supports the idea that men and women should have the choice to take on either role, or to share roles. considering that the workforce is close to equal in the male:female ratio, it seems that this is already happening.

I could care less if men or women take on either roles, but I don't expect them to be equal. Men have better spatial ability and are more left-hemisphere dominant which makes us better at math while women are much more adept at communication and language due to a more even hemispherical dominance and a larger limbic system. It's inevitable that men will be better overall at math and females will be better overall at language-based subjects as well as at caring for children so I think gender equality is a fruitless harvest. However, there is definitely a need to tone the gender roles down a notch since it isn't healthy to take these to extremes. Not only do dudes die more often from suicide since we tend to kill ourselves more violently, we also tend to isolate ourselves more so than women when we could use more of the "tend and befriend" approach rather than the "fight of flight" approach.

the male female math divide is largely due to test anxiety however... when females are tested in environments without males... much (if not nearly all) of the test score discrepancies vanish... the part that is left is easily explained as the result of negative self talk before and during the test because "girls are bad at math"

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13 Mar 2012, 1:22 am

Tequila wrote:

LKL wrote:

So, for places where discrimination against a group is very firmly entrenched, quota systems might help to break through the prejudices of the population and make life better for everyone.

Might well increase hostility though. I suppose it depends on the nature of the discrimination, whether it is simply legal or is very strongly ingrained in the culture. You don't want to impose further discrimination as that could backfire.

except that it has been shown that these types of measures decrease discrimination in all quarters... ie: if there are anti-discrimination laws in place for one group, other groups are also less likely to be discriminated against even without those protections in place (LG protections without T protections for instance... doesnt make it right that the trans members of society are without protections but there it is).

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13 Mar 2012, 3:01 am

godoftruemercy wrote:

TheDarkMage wrote:

as opposed to the

"all sex is rape. all men are rapists. men sexualise their own daughters. women won the war."

of feminism

Holy crap! CITATION NEEDED.

I knew there was a reason I was avoiding this thread. Please, somebody else explain feminism to him. I'm too tired.

okay explain it to me - im all ears.

i also assume that most of you which mock (another feminist trait) do not understand my true stance on the matter.

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13 Mar 2012, 3:08 am

TheDarkMage wrote:

godoftruemercy wrote:

TheDarkMage wrote:

as opposed to the

"all sex is rape. all men are rapists. men sexualise their own daughters. women won the war."

of feminism

Holy crap! CITATION NEEDED.

I knew there was a reason I was avoiding this thread. Please, somebody else explain feminism to him. I'm too tired.

okay explain it to me - im all ears.

i also assume that most of you which mock (another feminist trait) do not understand my true stance on the matter.

*Sigh*

I would like it noted that I am personally annoyed by the fact that me and my Y chromosome are up in here doing this.

Feminism, at its core, is the fight for equal rights for women, and represents (by implication) equal rights for all genders, or rather a lack of discrimination because of gender. It started as a fight for women to gain the right to vote, and retains its name from that day and age. The idea that no one should face discrimination because of the way they were born is the core of feminism.

Those people you're talking about? They're the 'feminist' equivalents of trailer park husbands that beat their wives and say women shouldn't have left the kitchen. They belong in the distinct group known as, 'Arguing Our Points, Yet Totally Not On Our Side'. Y'know, people that, if you were giving a speech, you would backhand and yell at them to stop trying to help.

That is all.

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13 Mar 2012, 3:08 am

puddingmouse wrote:

Urgh. I actually have tried looking on the Internet for modern rad fems (after saying I agree with the central theories of radical feminism, which I do). It turns out that a lot in the movement are critical of trans people and PIV sex. Ew. I'm all for collective action, but why do they have to purge all the people who support trans rights and like PIV sex? I guess I have to go off and make 'puddingmouse feminism', now. :lol:

yea i was wondering how you reconciled being rad fem with being as trans supportive as i have found you to be elsewhere on WP

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13 Mar 2012, 3:42 am

Lord_Gareth wrote:

that wasnt hard was it?

i am 100% for equal rights WITH EXCEPTIONS. by exceptions i mean little things like you shouldnt have a male bathroom attendant in a womens bathroom or vice versa.

if feminism is so equal rights then why do we never hear of them sticking up for mens rights?
why do they consisitently push lies such as the gender pay gap (which doesnt exist)?
why do they consistently expand the definiation of abuse?
why do they waffle about violence against women when it is a drop in the ocean compared to violence against men?

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