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30 Nov 2017, 10:56 am

The Dow hit 24000.



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30 Nov 2017, 11:15 am

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The Dow hit 24000.


Is that good or bad?



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30 Nov 2017, 11:22 am

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Crap. Looks like Little Hitler responded.

Little Hitler just released video on NK's new missile that they say can reach any place in the US.


We have hundreds that can hit every square inch of NK.



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30 Nov 2017, 11:41 am

It's good.....from the viewpoint of business.



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30 Nov 2017, 11:45 am

It is also good if you have a retirement savings with a lot invested in the Stock Market.



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30 Nov 2017, 2:58 pm

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It is also good if you have a retirement savings with a lot invested in the Stock Market.

Unless it's a financial bubble, then you're screwed. I found the stocks market to be too optimistic lately, if I had stocks I would retire them.


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30 Nov 2017, 3:16 pm

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It is also good if you have a retirement savings with a lot invested in the Stock Market.

Unless it's a financial bubble, then you're screwed. I found the stocks market to be too optimistic lately, if I had stocks I would retire them.


You can avoid the impact of bubbles by doing two things. First, diversify. Don't put all your money into stocks. Second, invest using a payroll deduction from a 401k or 403b a fixed amount each month. This will automatically allow you to buy more stock when it is cheap and less stock when it is expensive. Bubbles occur when the reverse happens and people want to buy stock because it is expensive. :roll:



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30 Nov 2017, 9:20 pm

This is what comes from SANCTUARY CITIES!
SENSELESS DEATHS OF INNOCENT AMERICANS!

Steyn on Kate Steinle Verdict: 'A Miscarriage of Justice in the Profoundest Sense'

https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxn ... icle/59228


7 PRIOR FELONIES and 6 DEPORTATIONS!


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01 Dec 2017, 12:06 pm

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And your point? What is it that is so funny?


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01 Dec 2017, 1:36 pm

Jury Finds Garcia Zarate Not Guilty In Steinle Murder Trial; Trump Calls Verdict ‘Disgraceful’
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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS/AP) — Jurors Thursday afternoon acquitted the illegal immigrant accused of killing Kate Steinle as she walked with her father on a crowded San Francisco pier of all charges except for felony possession of a firearm.

UPDATE: Trump Calls Steinle Verdict ‘A Complete Travesty Of Justice’; Renews Call For Border Wall

A spokesperson for the Superior Court of California made the announcement that the jury had reached a verdict shortly after 3 p.m. Shortly after 4:30 p.m., the shocking verdict was announced that Jose Ines Garcia Zarate was found not guilty of all charges except for the gun possession charge.

steinle murder trial sketch Jury Finds Garcia Zarate Not Guilty In Steinle Murder Trial; Trump Calls Verdict Disgraceful
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Jurors have been deliberating on the case since Tuesday, November 21, after prosecutors and defense attorneys finished their arguments whether Garcia Zarate was a hapless homeless man who killed Steinle in a freak accident or a calculated murderer intent on playing a sick game.

The jurors broke for the long Thanksgiving holiday weekend on Wednesday, November 22. Deliberations have been ongoing since the jury reconvened this past Monday.

The jury of six women and six men considered charges against Garcia Zarate that include murder, assault with a deadly weapon and being a felon in possession of a firearm in the death of Steinle, a 32-year-old Pleasanton native and San Francisco resident.


Defense attorney Matt Gonzalez spoke after the verdict was read, first taking a moment to offer condolences to the Steinle family.

“I hope that they do not interpret this verdict as diminishing in any way the awful tragedy that occurred,” said Gonzalez.

Gonzalez was also quick to ask that the jury’s decision be held in the proper regard.

“This jury’s verdict should be respected,” Gonzalez said. “They heard the evidence. They deliberated as a group. They heard read back testimony. They looked at the physical evidence and they rendered a verdict to the best of their abilities in accordance with the law.”

The attorney also anticipated the likely criticism that could be forthcoming from some high-profile politicians who had already commented on the case.

“For those who might criticize this verdict – there are a number of people who have commented on this case in the last couple of years; the Attorney General of the United States and the President and Vice President of the United States,” said Gonzalez. “Let me just remind them: they are themselves under investigation by a special prosecutor in Washington D.C. and they may soon avail themselves of the presumption of innocence beyond a reasonable doubt, so I ask that they reflect on that before they comment or disparage the results of this case.”

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions wasted no time attacking San Francisco’s Sanctuary City policies after the not guilty verdict in the high-profile trial was made public.

Sessions issued a statement placing the blame for Steinle’s July 1, 2015 death on the city’s Sanctuary City policies, which limit cooperation and communication between local law enforcement and immigration authorities.

“When jurisdictions choose to return criminal aliens to the streets rather than turning them over to federal immigration authorities, they put the public’s safety at risk,” Sessions said. “San Francisco’s decision to protect criminal aliens led to the preventable and heartbreaking death of Kate Steinle.”

Steinle was walking with her father and a family friend in July 2015 when she was shot, collapsing into her father’s arms. Garcia Zarate had been released from the San Francisco jail about three months before the shooting, despite a request by federal immigration authorities to detain him for deportation.

He had been deported five times and was wanted for a sixth deportation.

Acting U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Thomas Homan said that immigration officials will take custody of Jose Ines Garcia Zarate once his case concludes.

Alex Bastian, a spokesman for the San Francisco prosecutor’s office, said the “verdict that came in today was not the one we were hoping for” but it was the jury’s decision and prosecutors would respect it.

Jurors did find Garcia Zarate guilty of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

Public Defender Jeff Adachi said that charge carries a potential sentence of 16 months to 3 years.

Jim Steinle, Kate’s father, told the San Francisco Chronicle the family was saddened and shocked by the verdict. “There’s no other way you can coin it. Justice was rendered but it was not served,” he said in what he called the last interview he would do about the case.

Steinle’s death put San Francisco and its “sanctuary city” policy in the spotlight, as Democrats and Republicans lashed out at city officials for refusing to cooperate with federal deportation efforts.

On Thursday evening President Trump tweeted that the jury had returned a “disgraceful verdict.” Trump said it is “no wonder the people of our Country are so angry with Illegal Immigration.”

During the presidential race, then-candidate Donald Trump cited the killing as a reason to toughen U.S. immigration policies. Trump later signed an executive order to cut funding from cities that limit cooperation with U.S. immigration authorities, a policy that a federal judge in San Francisco permanently blocked Monday.

But the politics of immigration were not allowed to come up in the month-long trial.

San Francisco Deputy District Attorney Diana Garcia said she didn’t know why Garcia Zarate fired the weapon, but he created a risk of death by bringing the firearm to the pier that day and twirling around on a chair for at least 20 minutes before he fired.

She said he then ran away while other people tried to figure out what had happened. The bullet ricocheted on the pier’s concrete walkway before it struck Steinle.

“He did kill someone. He took the life of a young, vibrant, beautiful, cherished woman by the name of Kate Steinle,” she said.

Gonzalez said in his closing remarks that he knows it’s difficult to believe Garcia Zarate found an object that turned out to be a weapon that fired when he picked it up.

But he told jurors that Garcia Zarate had no motivation to kill Steinle and as awful as her death was, “nothing you do is going to fix that.”

He urged jurors to pick apart the facts of the case, instead of swallowing a ludicrous narrative by the prosecution that relied on circumstantial evidence.

Garcia called the defense’s argument just as implausible and told jurors to look at the entire picture.

The semi-automatic handgun used to kill Steinle was stolen from a federal Bureau of Land Management ranger a week before the shooting.

Before the shooting, Garcia Zarate had finished a federal prison sentence for illegal re-entry into the United States and was transferred in March 2015 to San Francisco’s jail to face a 20-year-old charge for selling marijuana.

The sheriff’s department released him a few days later after the district attorney dropped the marijuana charge, despite a request from federal immigration officials to detain him for deportation.


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01 Dec 2017, 1:42 pm

DOJ weighing federal charges in Kate Steinle murder case, after not guilty verdict

Department of Justice Director of Public Affairs Sarah Isgur Flores has the details on 'Fox & Friends' after the not guilty verdict.

The Justice Department is considering bringing federal charges against Jose Ines Garcia Zarate after his not guilty verdict in the Kate Steinle murder trial, department officials told Fox News on Friday.

A California jury acquitted Zarate of the more serious charges in the case, including murder, involuntary manslaughter and assault with a deadly weapon -- only convicting him of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

U.S. immigration officials had said they would deport Garcia Zarate – also known as Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez -- who already had been deported five times and was wanted for a sixth deportation when Steinle was fatally shot in the back while walking with her father.

The undocumented felon could spend three years in prison for the firearm charge but has already been behind bars for over two years as the case has made its way through court.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores acknowledged Friday that the DOJ is looking at federal charges. She suggested a possible charge could be felony re-entry or a charge pertaining to a violation of supervised release.

“We’re looking at every option and we will prosecute this to the fullest extent of the law because these cases are tragic and entirely preventable,” Flores said on “Fox & Friends” Friday.

She also urged local governments to “reconsider” sanctuary policies.

“This is a person who had been deported five times—he knew about San Francisco’s sanctuary policies. This is a person that never should have been on that pier, and Kate Steinle would still be alive,” she said.

The consideration of federal charges comes as President Trump calls the verdict “disgraceful” and uses the case to rally support for a border wall.

“The Kate Steinle killer came back and back over the weakly protected Obama border, always committing crimes and being violent, and yet this info was not used in court. His exoneration is a complete travesty of justice. BUILD THE WALL!” he tweeted Friday.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions also lamented the verdict in a written statement.

“When jurisdictions choose to return criminal aliens to the streets rather than turning them over to federal immigration authorities, they put the public’s safety at risk. San Francisco’s decision to protect criminal aliens led to the preventable and heartbreaking death of Kate Steinle,” he said. “While the State of California sought a murder charge for the man who caused Ms. Steinle’s death—a man who would not have been on the streets of San Francisco if the city simply honored an ICE detainer—the people ultimately convicted him of felon in possession of a firearm.”

Without making mention of any additional charges, he said the DOJ “will continue to ensure that all jurisdictions place the safety and security of their communities above the convenience of criminal aliens.”

The fatal shooting of 32-year-old Steinle – on a San Francisco pier in 2015 -- touched off a fierce national immigration debate, and was used by then-candidate Trump to push for a wall on the Mexican border.

The case spotlighted San Francisco's "sanctuary city" policy, which limits local officials from cooperating with U.S. immigration authorities.

Defense attorneys, though, argued that Garcia Zarate was a hapless homeless man who killed Steinle in a freak accident. Prosecutors said he meant to shoot and kill her.

Garcia Zarate did not deny shooting Steinle and said it was an accident.


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01 Dec 2017, 4:58 pm

Another victory for the American justice system. Such a shame the President doesn't respect it.

Remember, tomorrow it could be you that Trump wants locked up for a crime you didn't commit.



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01 Dec 2017, 5:08 pm

nurseangela wrote:
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And your point? What is it that is so funny?

Post above mine.


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01 Dec 2017, 7:46 pm

Hawaii just tested their nuclear alarm system today. I wonder if Kansas has one? I think we better get started on that if we don't. :mrgreen:


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