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10 Sep 2009, 9:10 am

Plotinus wrote:

Well awesomelyglorious,
Who is wise? I am!
I'd love to rule the planet.
I'd make it a paradise, the new garden of E-den.

Hmm... you answer one question and leave the philosophical bulk unanswered.

So, do I believe you are wise? You've given no reason for me to believe that, which is why I asked all of the other questions, so that way someone cannot just assert wisdom.

Not only that, but I am also skeptical to your beliefs about making the world a paradise, as to me that could even be a sign of a lack of wisdom.

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10 Sep 2009, 9:14 am

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Well awesomelyglorious,
Who is wise? I am!
I'd love to rule the planet.
I'd make it a paradise, the new garden of E-den.

I'd believe George W. Bush to be an honest, hard-working man-of-the-people before I'd ever believe the statement above.

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10 Sep 2009, 9:17 am

Absolute truth corrupts absolutely topic

Absolutely avoid absolutes.

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10 Sep 2009, 9:21 am

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Absolute truth corrupts absolutely topic

Absolutely avoid absolutes.

"Only Sith deals in absolutes."

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10 Sep 2009, 9:24 am

You like george w ?

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10 Sep 2009, 9:31 am

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You like george w ?

skafather84 is in love with George W. It is really kind of crazy if you think about it, given that Bush is married and against the whole homosexuality thing.

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10 Sep 2009, 9:38 am

'Thank god he's a country boy'

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10 Sep 2009, 9:54 am

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sartresue wrote:

Absolute truth corrupts absolutely topic

Absolutely avoid absolutes.

"Only Sith deals in absolutes."

Revenge is sweet, sayeth the Sith topic

Him and George W.

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10 Sep 2009, 9:57 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Plotinus wrote:

You like george w ?

skafather84 is in love with George W. It is really kind of crazy if you think about it, given that Bush is married and against the whole homosexuality thing.

Just saying: I'm not sure he has the best grasp on English rather less an Aspergean reading English as a second language.

That being said: I laughed.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:01 am

Awesomelyglorious wrote:

Plotinus wrote:

Well awesomelyglorious,
Who is wise? I am!
I'd love to rule the planet.
I'd make it a paradise, the new garden of E-den.

To be perfectly honest, leaders who have a goal of making the world "a paradise" are the most horrifying, murderous despots on historical record. Recently? Pol Pot, with his goal of "free Kampuchea" starting over in "year Zero". Those who seek to remake the country/world over as a paradise always have the same starting plan: to kill those who stand in their way or don't fit in. Cleansing of the non-paradisiacal is always the first step. Always. There is nothing scarier or more evil than somebody with "remold the world to fit my vision" plans. I personally think Pol Pot was more evil than Hitler in his views on other people (and you have to be pretty evil for that) but luckily he was far less powerful. I have no word on whether he thought he'd reached nirvana and was therefore qualified, but he does seem like the sort of guy who would think along those lines.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:08 am

Orwell wrote:

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Who is wise?
He who can learn from everyone.

R. ben Zomah

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A curious sentiment for someone who possesses such incredible disdain for the bulk of mankind. Why would you want to learn from everyone when you believe everyone is a moron?

A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:37 am

I suggest all you folks first read about nirvana and try to understand it. But only a few will understand.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:41 am

ruveyn wrote:

Orwell wrote:

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Who is wise?
He who can learn from everyone.

R. ben Zomah

ruveyn

A curious sentiment for someone who possesses such incredible disdain for the bulk of mankind. Why would you want to learn from everyone when you believe everyone is a moron?

A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

ruveyn

Bad analogy.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:42 am

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I suggest all you folks first read about nirvana and try to understand it. But only a few will understand.

I didn't like their music much, so I am not sure I really care to read about Nirvana. I also don't know how they relate to this topic at all.

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10 Sep 2009, 10:59 am

skafather84 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Orwell wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Who is wise?
He who can learn from everyone.

R. ben Zomah

ruveyn

A curious sentiment for someone who possesses such incredible disdain for the bulk of mankind. Why would you want to learn from everyone when you believe everyone is a moron?

A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

ruveyn

Bad analogy.

Analog time topic

One of my NT teens calls me special needs and moron when she is angry.

I would not want her to learn from me either. :roll:

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10 Sep 2009, 11:54 am

sartresue wrote:

skafather84 wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Orwell wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

Who is wise?
He who can learn from everyone.

R. ben Zomah

ruveyn

A curious sentiment for someone who possesses such incredible disdain for the bulk of mankind. Why would you want to learn from everyone when you believe everyone is a moron?

A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.

ruveyn

Bad analogy.

Analog time topic

One of my NT teens calls me special needs and moron when she is angry.

I would not want her to learn from me either. :roll:

I understood it from the idea that a stopped clock will be right twice in a day...assuming the clock is a 12 hour clock. But the clock is still worthless because it lacks the context needed to do its function. If anything, the analogy shows that just because you're occasionally right doesn't mean that you're helpful in that topic.

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