does Gordon Brown have aspergers??

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29 Apr 2010, 6:22 pm

ask him

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29 Apr 2010, 6:32 pm

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Not all aspies are alike. Having Asperger's does not make one immune from some of the other grubbier human traits.

True. I was typing from an idiosyncratic perspective where no Aspie stoops to such tactics as conniving political ones. Reality might be different. I still don't like thinking of Aspies as political.

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29 Apr 2010, 6:35 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

Moog wrote:

Not all aspies are alike. Having Asperger's does not make one immune from some of the other grubbier human traits.

True. I was typing from an idiosyncratic perspective where no Aspie stoops to such tactics as conniving political ones. Reality might be different. I still don't like thinking of Aspies as political.

A lot of people on this forum debate on politics.

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30 Apr 2010, 3:00 am

rmgh wrote:

A lot of people on this forum debate on politics.

Without debating politics there would be no policy, and a poorer society.

On the other hand
Gordon Brown and "bigoted woman" -> 551,000 hits
Gordon Brown and "autism policy" -> 74 hits

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02 May 2010, 2:12 am

B.I.G.O.T. - Brown Is Gone On Thursday

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02 May 2010, 5:23 am

Asp-Z wrote:

B.I.G.O.T. - Brown Is Gone On Thursday

Hahaha

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02 May 2010, 6:22 am

Why do you folks hold your elections on a Thursday in May, instead of a Tuesday in November, the way God intended elections to be held?

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02 May 2010, 12:42 pm

oliverthered wrote:

ASD,
Know for being honest!
Know for not being 'social', can you think of anything more social that wanting to control the population! And actually putting yourself in the front line to do it.
Not good at team sports etc... (Why would anyone like that want to go into party politics in quite such the way he has.)
doesn't seem clumsy, no tonal problems with voice. No acute emotional nature to his language. Does have a temper, but then don't control freaks and bullies have tempers.

Possibly more of a psychopath than ASD.

Psychopaths have very convicning superficial charm. Gordon Brown does not - he's quite anti-telegenic (I bet if he as telegenic and charismatic, he could easily blow of "bigotgate").

David Cameron fits more closely to the psychopathic archetype.

As for Brown, while I don't think he fits on the Autistic Spectrum, he certainly has rough edges around his personality (inner-driven, intolerant of dissent, and social awkwardness) that resemble - very loosely - Asperger's traits.

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02 May 2010, 2:21 pm

imagine what he might have said if his aide hadnt spotted the mic so soon "typical fookin NT's - their all bigots!! only a superior aspie brain can save the world!! - he'd fit in some of the WP discussions quite well!

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02 May 2010, 10:22 pm

StuartN wrote:

rmgh wrote:

A lot of people on this forum debate on politics.

Without debating politics there would be no policy, and a poorer society.

On the other hand
Gordon Brown and "bigoted woman" -> 551,000 hits
Gordon Brown and "autism policy" -> 74 hits

Are you saying that Anglo-American political media, in their intensive attempts to fetishize gaffes and statements over real issues, are obscuring a real issue in Britian?

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02 May 2010, 10:28 pm

The Times Online, in a typical act of fact free editorializing, has thrown into the sewage system know as the British political media a speculation that Brown may have some mental disorder.

http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2010/02/ ... don-brown/

Personally, would you rather have a politician who "bullies" (forcefully advocates their principles) or one with a relentlessly concessionary personality (i.e. Obama)?

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On an earlier note, a Tory MP got into trouble for comments conducive to the proposition that Gordon Brown is "slightly autistic" back in 2006.

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The shadow chancellor, who denied the charge, was criticised by the National Autistic Society after a light hearted exchange at a Tory fringe meeting.

Mr Osborne had been recalling his ability to retain odd facts, when the journalist hosting the event joked he might have been "faintly autistic".

For Mr. Osborne's credit, some members of Wrong Planet have made greater stretches in reasoning.

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03 May 2010, 10:21 am

psych wrote:

LOL I can imagine that

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04 May 2010, 6:30 am

Master_Pedant wrote:

Personally, would you rather have a politician who "bullies" (forcefully advocates their principles) or one with a relentlessly concessionary personality (i.e. Obama)?

I think I'd go for the relentlessly concessionary personality - given that most politicians' ideas are about redistribiting wealth into the pockets of the wealthy, it'd be comforting to know that a bit of remonstrating might soften the blow. That's why I'm hoping for a hung parliament - with a little luck, without a dependable working majority they'll be too scared to bring on those savage cuts quite so quickly.

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04 May 2010, 6:46 am

ToughDiamond wrote:

I agree. It is the best result for us, particularly in these current circumstances. The only parties who disagree are those who think they are in with a chance of achieving a majority result so they can do what they like.

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04 May 2010, 5:05 pm

If there's a hung parliament, the Digital Economy Act might get repealed, so that aspect is good I guess.

On the subject of redistributing wealth, I disagree with it. This isn't communism, it's a capitilist society.

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07 May 2010, 6:06 pm

Brown is unlikely to be on the autism scale at all. I doubt anyone successful in politics has ever been formally diagnosed with autism. From what I read on Brown, his personal self is completely different from the personality on camera.

The media and Conservative party are unlikely to be drawing upon any official diagnosis, heck I doubt George Osborne or the Times editor even knows what Aspergers actually is, they appear to be mistaking anyone who isn't easy on camera as being autistic. The only person whose opinion I'd trust on this would be a qualified psychologist basing their opinion on meeting Brown in person and not based off his public persona.

That said, I doubt Mark Lawson or Armando Iannucci have Aspergers. Having a stable monotonous voice or "speaking quickly" alone means nothing.

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