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19 Oct 2010, 2:33 pm
waltur wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Though it hasn't been styled as such, "thought crimes" do exist and are enforced. It's just a matter of being just smart enough to not get sucked into those kinds of groups/societies. Take any kind of closed or authoritarian pseudo-religious cult. The Branch Davidians immediately spring to mind, though they did have a large degree of freedom. You COULD walk out, but their thoughts had become so aligned to the purpose of Koresh that they really didn't want to. Thus thought crimes are suppressed by intense isolation.
Other cults/religions are much more subtle. The one that is most overtly thought-crimeish in my opinion would be the "Church" of Scientology. They ACTIVELY seek to purge thoughts they perceive to be wrong. They cover it by appearing to allow a great deal of freedom for their members. Just don't join the Sea Org.
As for a method of government, what really stands in the way of something like that happening? Most likely diversity of thought and a highly independent spirit. So it's a matter of right time, right place, and right people.
Other cults/religions are much more subtle. The one that is most overtly thought-crimeish in my opinion would be the "Church" of Scientology. They ACTIVELY seek to purge thoughts they perceive to be wrong. They cover it by appearing to allow a great deal of freedom for their members. Just don't join the Sea Org.
As for a method of government, what really stands in the way of something like that happening? Most likely diversity of thought and a highly independent spirit. So it's a matter of right time, right place, and right people.
i agree with this. persecution of thought crimes seems to be largely religious - not a government issue. well, thank goodness for the separation of church and state!
"where in the constitution is the separation of church and state?" -official gop candidate for united states senate in 2010.
don't thank goodness yet.
Do you expect the Spanish Inquisition?
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19 Oct 2010, 3:20 pm
waltur wrote:
LKL: dude, he's got a god. i'm pretty sure he's not worried about technical capacity.
EDIT: true, now where can i get one? i want one that is more powerful than his god.
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19 Oct 2010, 3:55 pm
hyperlexian wrote:
waltur wrote:
LKL: dude, he's got a god. i'm pretty sure he's not worried about technical capacity.
EDIT: true, now where can i get one? i want one that is more powerful than his god.
Mocking my Christianity are we now? Shame on you, I thought you were so high above that.
19 Oct 2010, 4:07 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
waltur wrote:
LKL: dude, he's got a god. i'm pretty sure he's not worried about technical capacity.
EDIT: true, now where can i get one? i want one that is more powerful than his god.
Mocking my Christianity are we now? Shame on you, I thought you were so high above that.
nope, i think it's funny that he is implying that an all-powerful god would destroy the planet at a human's request. presumably, nobody on earth has that power, do they? and if you had that power, i would want a stronger god to oppose your god. they could fight it out.
funny you would nitpick at me instead of the person who made the joke though.... you sure get upset at me, don't you? poor you.
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19 Oct 2010, 4:38 pm
hyperlexian wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
waltur wrote:
LKL: dude, he's got a god. i'm pretty sure he's not worried about technical capacity.
EDIT: true, now where can i get one? i want one that is more powerful than his god.
Mocking my Christianity are we now? Shame on you, I thought you were so high above that.
nope, i think it's funny that he is implying that an all-powerful god would destroy the planet at a human's request. presumably, nobody on earth has that power, do they? and if you had that power, i would want a stronger god to oppose your god. they could fight it out.
funny you would nitpick at me instead of the person who made the joke though.... you sure get upset at me, don't you? poor you.
hey hey now, first off, that was a joke for LKL and iamnotaparakeet.
i purposefully refrained from mocking keet's deeply held faith. this takes effort as i'm naturally really good at being dick to biblical literalists and i take exception to your implication that i was being mean to keet this time.
i was saying that, as far as keet's concerned, there exists a being with the capacity to destroy whatever the hell he wants. keet's supposed to laugh at this because he believes this is true and that this being has already shown this several times. LKL's supposed to laugh because i'm saying "magic is magic."
no need to be mean about it and there's no reason we can't all laugh at something from a few angles.
complexity is a good thing.
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19 Oct 2010, 5:24 pm
19 Oct 2010, 5:52 pm
waltur wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
waltur wrote:
LKL: dude, he's got a god. i'm pretty sure he's not worried about technical capacity.
EDIT: true, now where can i get one? i want one that is more powerful than his god.
Mocking my Christianity are we now? Shame on you, I thought you were so high above that.
nope, i think it's funny that he is implying that an all-powerful god would destroy the planet at a human's request. presumably, nobody on earth has that power, do they? and if you had that power, i would want a stronger god to oppose your god. they could fight it out.
funny you would nitpick at me instead of the person who made the joke though.... you sure get upset at me, don't you? poor you.
hey hey now, first off, that was a joke for LKL and iamnotaparakeet.
i purposefully refrained from mocking keet's deeply held faith. this takes effort as i'm naturally really good at being dick to biblical literalists and i take exception to your implication that i was being mean to keet this time.
i was saying that, as far as keet's concerned, there exists a being with the capacity to destroy whatever the hell he wants. keet's supposed to laugh at this because he believes this is true and that this being has already shown this several times. LKL's supposed to laugh because i'm saying "magic is magic."
no need to be mean about it and there's no reason we can't all laugh at something from a few angles.
complexity is a good thing.
so, it's a private thread all of a sudden? if you want to make a private joke, send a PM and don't put it in a public thread. and if mockery or meanness happened, it sure as heck wasn't me who did it.... i laughed at what i thought YOUR joke was saying, and i thought it was a great deal more innocuous than it actually was.
i'm not mocking his faith at all. i respect christian people, and i happen to be married to one.
question though - why would you say, "no reason we can't all laugh at something from a few angles" if you don't want me laughing? or does "we" and "all" not include me?
