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20 Apr 2011, 6:57 pm

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Yes, the BNP are that bad. The leadership is National Socialist and often ex-NF and C18.

Most of the party foot-soldiers and the EDL are standard xenophobes. The BNP are much nastier once nastier once you look at them properly. If you read their website and look at the history of a lot of their membership, you soon realise this.

Whats nasty about shutting the doors? Isn't helping some racist Muslim nasty? You obviously know diddly squat about the EDL.

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20 Apr 2011, 6:58 pm

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I have no idea about what screwed up standards British xenophobes have for "adorability", but from watching the first 31 seconds of that propoganda clip it seems the woman is a crusty, bigoted, and ill-tempered with an enormous sense of entitlement.

It's a party political broadcast for the Welsh Assembly elections. Every party that has enough clout gets one - so Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, UK Independence Party, Plaid Cymru, Green Party and the British National Party will all get a five-minute broadcast. The bigger parties generally get much more airtime than the smaller ones.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:02 pm

As for the question: are the BNP that bad? Compared to some of the ultranationalist parties from eastern Europe, no.

I still wouldn't ever vote BNP though.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:09 pm

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Thanks, you could only watch 31 seconds, that says a lot.

He didn't say he only watched 31 seconds of it, he said 'watching the first 31 seconds etc'

I guess so. But he didn't say he continued either. But the last thing this country need is UAF fans.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:12 pm

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As for the question: are the BNP that bad? Compared to some of the ultranationalist parties from eastern Europe, no.

I still wouldn't ever vote BNP though.

I would. And i'm not racist. Its just hilarious that the BNP are as far right as you can go, espcially with what goes on here.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:13 pm

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But the last thing this country need is UAF fans.

It's interesting to read that usually at EDL/UAF demonstrations most of the people who end up getting themselves arrested are UAF people (an organisation funded by the three main political parties). You never hear that on the news though, and the mainstream news makes the EDL look like the entire source of the trouble. I'm sure the EDL aren't angels by any means but biased reporting is likely to do great harm.

And I do so love the way the UAF want to unite against fascism by behaving like, er, fascists. Cracks me up, so it does.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:14 pm

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Its just hilarious that the BNP are as far right as you can go, espcially with what goes on here.

The BNP aren't 'far-right'. Economically they are very socialist and left-wing. Socially they are authoritarian and racist. All good reasons not to stick a vote their way for me.

And I'm frankly getting very tired with the way the likes of the BBC (and left-wing organisations) branding any protest party they don't agree with 'far-right'.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:35 pm

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What about the unending council estates full of white scum, of which you couldn't dream walking through?

It means that there are trash people of varying sizes, shapes and colors.

ruveyn

Exactly, which mean there is no justification for booting one group of melanin-producing scumbags out, and leaving pastier yobs to roam freely.

Oh but didn't you realize?:

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A lot of white trash are wannabe black people.

So getting rid of those black people should by default restore them to whitedom

You scorn me for having a society's view against cannabis, yet you have a society's view against "racism".

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20 Apr 2011, 7:37 pm

I almost agree with you 100% Tequila, but just tell me how the BNP are racist? I'm not saying they aren't.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:42 pm

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20 Apr 2011, 7:50 pm

Tequila wrote:

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Its just hilarious that the BNP are as far right as you can go, espcially with what goes on here.

Bollocks, the BNP are far right they were formed as a splinter group from the National Front back in 1982. Would you call the Liverpool Echo & Merseyside Police left wing as they had dealings with the BNP, The Liverpool Echo refused to print an BNP ad this year & Merseyside Police sacked a copper from being a BNP member.

Are you forgetting the issues over BNP membership from the 3 to 4 years ago? The BNP had a run in with the Equality and Human Rights Commission over there membership policy. Plus police and the prison services are banned from joining the BNP. The Church of England banned they clergy from joining, also other professions have mooted sanctions on employees who are BNP members.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:52 pm

I'm not saying they're not extremist; I'm saying applying 'far-right' to a party like the BNP is a misnomer. National socialist would be more accurate?

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20 Apr 2011, 7:54 pm

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Tequila wrote:

benjimanbreeg wrote:

Its just hilarious that the BNP are as far right as you can go, espcially with what goes on here.

Bollocks, the BNP are far right they were formed as a splinter group from the National Front back in 1982. Would you call the Liverpool Echo & Merseyside Police left wing as the had dealings with the BNP, The Liverpool Echo refused to print an BNP ad this year & Merseyside Police sacked a copper from being a BNP member.

Are you forgetting the issues over BNP membership from the 3 to 4 years ago? The BNP had a run in with the Equality and Human Rights Commission over there membership policy. Plus police and the prison services are banned from joining the BNP. The Church of England banned they clergy from joining, also other professions have mooted sanctions on employees who are BNP members.

Yes, they are far right, as far right as this country will let anyone go. I'm just asking why I can't actually have a party thats actually racist, so I can be against them.

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20 Apr 2011, 7:55 pm

Tequila wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party#Social_and_cultural_policy

I didn't find anything objectionable there. What's wrong, for example, with this:

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Griffin espouses "ethno-nationalism" based on "concern for the well-being of the English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish ethnic nations that compose the United Kingdom".

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20 Apr 2011, 7:56 pm

benjimanbreeg wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

ryan93 wrote:

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What about the unending council estates full of white scum, of which you couldn't dream walking through?

It means that there are trash people of varying sizes, shapes and colors.

ruveyn

Exactly, which mean there is no justification for booting one group of melanin-producing scumbags out, and leaving pastier yobs to roam freely.

Oh but didn't you realize?:

benjaminbreeg wrote:

A lot of white trash are wannabe black people.

So getting rid of those black people should by default restore them to whitedom

You scorn me for having a society's view against cannabis, yet you have a society's view against "racism".

*yawn* okay then

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20 Apr 2011, 7:56 pm

Tequila wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party#Social_and_cultural_policy

Again, just tell me what makes them racist, in your eyes?

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