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And the raise goes to...
Employee A. 79%  79%  [ 15 ]
Employee B. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Employee C. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Everybody should get the same pay. 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Choose the one to give the raise to uniformly at random. 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Everybody should work for free. 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 19

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17 May 2011, 2:36 am

Okay, Orwell, let's see this example, shall we?

A works 5 hours and achieves 300 utils of productivity.
B works 10 hours and achieves 250 utils of productivity.
C works 8 hours and achieves 280 utils of productivity.

But let's say you wipe out B, as you are gong ho to do. Before doing this you had, in total, 830 utils of productivity. But afterwards, you only have 580 utils of productivity. So, since you need 830 utils of productivity due to contracts with your buyers, you need to make up that 250 utils.

A works at 60 utils an hour. But let's say that, after 8 hours, A crashes.

A works 8 hours and achieves 480 utils of productivity. Still short. Likewise, C crashes after 8 hours. Does it still make sense to fire B?

As I said, it all depends on the circumstances. Since Vex didn't add any, we're speculating out of thin air.


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17 May 2011, 2:55 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Okay, Orwell, let's see this example, shall we?

A works 5 hours and achieves 300 utils of productivity.
B works 10 hours and achieves 250 utils of productivity.
C works 8 hours and achieves 280 utils of productivity.

But let's say you wipe out B, as you are gong ho to do. Before doing this you had, in total, 830 utils of productivity. But afterwards, you only have 580 utils of productivity. So, since you need 830 utils of productivity due to contracts with your buyers, you need to make up that 250 utils.

A works at 60 utils an hour. But let's say that, after 8 hours, A crashes.

A works 8 hours and achieves 480 utils of productivity. Still short. Likewise, C crashes after 8 hours. Does it still make sense to fire B?

As I said, it all depends on the circumstances. Since Vex didn't add any, we're speculating out of thin air.
If B adds more revenue than his salary then he is not a liability and should of course be kept.



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17 May 2011, 6:24 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
mcg wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
mcg wrote:
If B is a liability, then what's so great about having a loyal liability? If he's not, then you should keep him as long as he's still adding a positive net value to the firm.


Uh, no, if you suddenly have 10 employees quit and B is the only one to do a bunch of essential tasks, then he is not a liability even if his productivity was less than former, short-term employees.
That hypothetical situation is extremely improbable. Certainly not probable enough to justify giving a raise to a single employee who is a net loss to the company at his current salary.


How the hell do you get to decide what's "probable"? The OP doesn't identify the size of the company, the nature of the businesses, the number of competitors, or the turnover rate. And I really dislike it when people make generalized, ideological judgements on the basis of limited information. The correct answer to the OP is "not enough information".
The correct answer to this rant is stop over-thinking things, relax and use only the information given you cannot make a wrong decision, because the thing is entirely hypothetical and yes the real world would have more factors, but the point of the question is to assume when only those mentioned in the post are different between the employees.. I couldn't give you more circumstances because the situation does not exist.


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23 Aug 2012, 3:46 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
Purely hypothetical. You are the guy who pays the checks at some company. The salaries of three employees depend on you.

Employee A: Spends far less time at work than B and C, but it turns out the result of his work has the top quality by an objectively measurable metric.
Employee B: Works overtime, but it turns out the result of his work has the worst quality. Although the quality is acceptable, A and C did a better job.
Employee C: Mediocre quality and time spent.

My answer is give the raise at random.


I need more information to go on. Are they all honest?

if yes, I would give everyone a raise: A for quality of work; B for effort put in; C for dependability (assuming C is simply an average person and not unmotivated). All of these characteristics are important, and rarely to be found in the same person. Thus, those traits should be rewarded individually.

Also I find results of poll interesting as overwhelmingly we tend to overlook "staying busy" or appearance of hard work, which seems to be important in a lot of work places and effects outcome none - it's purely a farce. I think time spent working is irrelevant, but effort matters.

If an employee has a fixed amount of work to be done and gets it done in 6 hrs instead of 8, the employee should have the extra 2 hrs to do nothing, go home early, take extra breaks, work at a more leisurely pace, or whatever, with no requirement to put on some kind of act that they are working the whole day.

if person A actually put in a full work day and not only produced stellar work but more of it than other employees, the raise would go to A.