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12 Mar 2012, 11:57 pm

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why would you want 500 condoms per day?

No reason...

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12 Mar 2012, 11:59 pm

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hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

No reason...

i don't think it would be physically possible to have sex 500 times in a day, would it?

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13 Mar 2012, 12:00 am

hyperlexian wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

No reason...

i don't think it would be physically possible to have sex 500 times in a day, would it?

Sex? Uh I was thinking of balloon animals

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13 Mar 2012, 12:03 am

Vigilans wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

No reason...

i don't think it would be physically possible to have sex 500 times in a day, would it?

Sex? Uh I was thinking of balloon animals

problem is that the free condoms are a boring colour. no kid wants a beige-coloured balloon elephant :elephant:

plus the lubricant would make them too slippery. that would be the worst birthday party ever.

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13 Mar 2012, 12:48 am

Y'know, Brazil's been handing out condoms more or less like candy for the last few years or so. Has there been a significant 'abuse' of their system that anyone can document? Huge trains of black-market condoms running in the dead of night to religious nations?

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13 Mar 2012, 11:26 am

Vexcalibur wrote:

Plus if condoms were free, there would be no way to make a profit with them, in fact, you would be wasting a lot of energy and money in transportation and storage-

Just because a product or service is provided for free at the point of delivery does not mean that there is no commercial interest in supplying that good or that service. The question is merely, "where does it get paid for."

Teachers in public schools don't work for free. Crews who build public highways don't work for free. From a public policy point of view, bulk purchase of condoms and free distribution is nothing less than a present cost which is intended to mitigate a future cost. So long as the net present value of that future cost is greater than the present cost of the condoms, it is a good spending choice.

As far as I am concerned, teenage boys should be provided with a ready supply. Boys should be encouraged to use them from time to time when they masturbate--to establish that you can have a very satisfactory orgasm while wearing a condom. And, frankly, I am perfectly happy if they also use them to make balloon animals, fight water balloon wars, decorate their lockers and otherwise goof around with them. The more that condoms are normalized, the more likely that men are to use them.

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13 Mar 2012, 12:48 pm

visagrunt wrote:

Vexcalibur wrote:

Plus if condoms were free, there would be no way to make a profit with them, in fact, you would be wasting a lot of energy and money in transportation and storage-

Just because a product or service is provided for free at the point of delivery does not mean that there is no commercial interest in supplying that good or that service. The question is merely, "where does it get paid for."

Teachers in public schools don't work for free. Crews who build public highways don't work for free. From a public policy point of view, bulk purchase of condoms and free distribution is nothing less than a present cost which is intended to mitigate a future cost. So long as the net present value of that future cost is greater than the present cost of the condoms, it is a good spending choice.

As far as I am concerned, teenage boys should be provided with a ready supply. Boys should be encouraged to use them from time to time when they masturbate--to establish that you can have a very satisfactory orgasm while wearing a condom. And, frankly, I am perfectly happy if they also use them to make balloon animals, fight water balloon wars, decorate their lockers and otherwise goof around with them. The more that condoms are normalized, the more likely that men are to use them.

this is genius.

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13 Mar 2012, 4:43 pm

seconded. If only such common sense could prevail...

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15 Mar 2012, 7:15 am

hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

I already outlined why. If I sell those condoms for 10 cents each on eBay, that's an easy $50 per day. If I sell a product, and that product could be produced more cheaply if I am able to use free condoms in its production instead of whatever resource it is I pay for in the market, then I can make more money.

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And I think some common sense on behalf of the person who is running the place where condoms are being distributed would be enough to stop those few who would from walking off with 500 condoms.

Common sense? If I am entitled to free contraception with no limits, then common sense does not enter into it. I am entitled to 500 free condoms, and the outlet is legally obliged to provide me with them. If there is a limit, then the outlet can deny me, so once again what is the limit?

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Very few people would try to exploit the system.

Exploitation is point number one. Point number two is this: Are you going to be providing the most expensive forms of each contraception? Some types of condoms cost a lot more than others, so are you going to be providing them freely as well?

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Brazil's been handing out condoms more or less like candy for the last few years or so

From the sources that I can find, Brazil's government has been providing condoms at a rate of... drum roll... 2.5 condoms per person per year.

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15 Mar 2012, 7:37 am

Burzum wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

AstroGeek wrote:

And I think some common sense on behalf of the person who is running the place where condoms are being distributed would be enough to stop those few who would from walking off with 500 condoms.

AstroGeek wrote:

Very few people would try to exploit the system.

Lord_Gareth wrote:

Brazil's been handing out condoms more or less like candy for the last few years or so

From the sources that I can find, Brazil's government has been providing condoms at a rate of... drum roll... 2.5 condoms per person per year.

arent there laws today preventing you from selling the products of others without permission?

if not know that in many scandinavian countries condoms are given away free without suffering from the problems you describe.

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15 Mar 2012, 7:40 am

Oodain wrote:

arent there laws today preventing you from selling the products of others without permission?

So you're saying that I don't actually own the condoms that I am given by the government?

Oodain wrote:

if not know that in many scandinavian countries condoms are given away free without suffering from the problems you describe.

In what way? They are given away free to anyone who asks? Please give me a source.

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15 Mar 2012, 9:10 am

Burzum wrote:

Oodain wrote:

arent there laws today preventing you from selling the products of others without permission?

So you're saying that I don't actually own the condoms that I am given by the government?

Oodain wrote:

if not know that in many scandinavian countries condoms are given away free without suffering from the problems you describe.

In what way? They are given away free to anyone who asks? Please give me a source.

no i am sayong that as far as i recall it is illegal for you to resell a product as a retailer without permission.

you cant buy 20 ipods from apple retail and then go out and sell them as new products.

as for sources for free condoms, can you translate them yourself?
could only find danish sources

also it isnt a centrally decided initiative, natteravnene hands out free condoms wehen they do their rounds (parents walking the nightlife, helps with not only condoms but they offer assistance if people get too drunk)
many general practitioners hand out free condoms from a condom bowl in the lobby, mine is one of those, my preious GP did as well (this actually might be central i dont know)
the gymnasium i went to not only had their own bowl but often had promotion bowls from stop aids and other parties.
there is sometimes free condoms at apothecaries as well.

why is that so hard to believe?
profit isnt everything, especially in scandinavia.

link to natteravnene (night owls)

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15 Mar 2012, 10:51 am

Oodain wrote:

you cant buy 20 ipods from apple retail and then go out and sell them as new products.

Really?

It is questionable why someone would want to do that, though. You would not make a profit from it.

Oodain wrote:

why is that so hard to believe?

I don't disbelieve you. But these Natteravnene and "condom bowls" are not the same thing as free unlimited contraception for all citizens. Here's a question: Is there still a market for condoms in Denmark? Is it still possible to go to the corner store and buy a packet of condoms?

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15 Mar 2012, 11:39 am

Burzum wrote:

Oodain wrote:

you cant buy 20 ipods from apple retail and then go out and sell them as new products.

Really?

It is questionable why someone would want to do that, though. You would not make a profit from it.

Oodain wrote:

why is that so hard to believe?

are they being sold as used merchandise, pre owned or as retail products? (ah found it seller refurbished, see?)

sure you can still buy condoms, and how would the effect be any different if free contraceptives were privded at similar locals around the US?

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15 Mar 2012, 12:21 pm

Last year, I worked in a govt funded clinic. One of the big ticket items was Xanax. We had this provider who would prescribe them 90 at a time in some cases, I honestly think it was to keep the patients from coming back anytime soon.

There was no way I could give 90 pills to everyone who showed up, so, I handed out 20, made a note in the patient records and just told them to come back when they ran out. If they complained, I just told them we were having a shortage and needed some for the next guy.

Change Xanax to condoms and the same strategy can work. I can see someone needing 30-60 condoms, that can last you the better part of a month even if you're completely insatiable. If someone asks for 500, I'd wonder if they wouldn't expire before they're all used.

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15 Mar 2012, 1:00 pm

Burzum wrote:

hyperlexian wrote:

why would you want 500 condoms per day?

people will likely not buy them unboxed. that would be a safety issue as they would not be properly sealed in a package. also, there is not a big market for the cheap brands that are currently given away (i checked on eBay).

lastly.... our clinics here in Canada give away condoms for free (no limits on how many a person takes either), and nobody is selling them for a profit on eBay lol. so this imaginary world in which people are stuffing their pockets and making a profit is pure nonsense.

try again.

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