Should smoking be banned outright?

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Sweetleaf
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21 Mar 2012, 3:57 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

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Kjas wrote:

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I don't know about high risk hobbies, but drinking more or abusing any substance yes. Non-genetic morbid obesity I am also not really very happy to pay for.

Finally, someone who isn't taking it out of context.

Unfortunately, as evidenced already by Sweetleaf's reply, some people will not recognize that

.....for some reason I am getting that same feeling I get when I end up being the idiot in the room that does not get the joke. Typically I respond better to people maybe explaining what they mean if I don't get it rather then poking fun at me for being too slow to get it.

Would it have been so hard to maybe not try and make things personal, or am I really that bad?

I'm sorry you interpreted that as a personal attack. I was agreeing with Kjas on how easy it is to misunderstand that position

it looked like you where more or less pointing out I was too stupid to understand...but if that's not what you meant then I won't worry about it anymore.

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21 Mar 2012, 4:01 pm

Agreed^

Sweetleaf, that was not directed at you personally. Many people were taking it out of context, you certainly weren't alone in that.

It can be very easily misunderstood and most people would choose to take it out of context on purpose in order to disprove anthers point by making them sound ridiculous. Others would do so accidentally, simply not understanding why.

The problem becomes when they choose to ask loaded questions rather than questions from actual curiosity. That is what I did not want to happen, hence my post to Vigilans about him not taking it out of context..

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21 Mar 2012, 4:01 pm

Smoking can be bad to do in certin places but so can hair spray and other things too.

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21 Mar 2012, 4:16 pm

Joker wrote:

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No. The way I see it, it is your body and you should be able to do what you want with it.

I support this statement.

I do too.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:10 pm

A person could volunteer to go to rehab prison to break the habit.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:13 pm

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A person could volunteer to go to rehab prison to break the habit.

Because people would just be lining up to go to prison.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:21 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:

Joker wrote:

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No. The way I see it, it is your body and you should be able to do what you want with it.

I support this statement.

I do too.

I don't. When you smoke it's not just your body you're screwing up. The patch, the gum, anything like that? That's fine. But smoking hurts people besides you, people that don't get the courtesy of a filter to protect them.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:23 pm

If the prison were a hell hole there would be no volunteers. It doesn't matter if the prison were a hell hole or a country club. The concept is that once you volunteer for treatment you give up your rights as a free citizen. Inside the prison smoking is not possible and you are not allowed to leave until you have completed your sentence. Good way to lose weight. Since imprisonment is temporary the free human spirit will not be broken because there is light at the end of the tunnel.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:23 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:

Joker wrote:

LiberalJustice wrote:

No. The way I see it, it is your body and you should be able to do what you want with it.

I support this statement.

I do too.

I highly doubt if I light up a cigarette right now its going to hurt any non-smokers....

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21 Mar 2012, 5:24 pm

androbot2084 wrote:

Yeah I think most people prefer to keep their rights.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:25 pm

Prohibition of any kind is bound to fail.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:34 pm

A lot of people want to stop smoking but they have no self control. So why not let others take charge? If someone wants a cigarette that bad they can build a tunnel to escape from prison. Regular prisons are infested with drugs but these regular prisons do not count because no one chose to go there.

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21 Mar 2012, 5:44 pm

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I had to laugh when I got to the no self control part, because it has nothing to do with ones general self control, it has to do with getting addicted to nicotine. I am sure there are lots of smokers with great self control, just not when it comes to smoking. Then of course there are people who do in fact smoke by choice and aren't addicted so what purpose would that serve other then to piss them off?

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21 Mar 2012, 6:03 pm

The government has no right to tell what I can or cannot put in my body.

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21 Mar 2012, 6:30 pm

Jacoby wrote:

The government has no right to tell what I can or cannot put in my body.

If only the government believed that

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21 Mar 2012, 7:50 pm

Banning anything that is considered desirable creates an instant black market and all the issues that come with black markets.

Besides, I enjoy ridiculing militant non-smokers that gasp and cough as if they are being gassed when there is a lit cigarette within a 50 ft radius of them......

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