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14 Apr 2012, 2:18 pm

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Since I am a high functioning autistic with Asperger Syndrome I do not view it as a disability but as a great advantage the NT's


You support fascism. If a fascist party ever came to power again, you'd be one of the first groups they'd look to get rid of. Fascists hate any sign of difference or creativity of thought. Everyone must think the same, act the same, be the same. No-one can be different. Anyone that is, gets severely punished or their family attacked or ends up murdered. That's what fascism is.

It means that if you don't agree with the prevailing ideology, you have to keep quiet about it otherwise they will kill you because they hate your beliefs and want power over people.



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14 Apr 2012, 2:21 pm

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Since I am a high functioning autistic with Asperger Syndrome I do not view it as a disability but as a great advantage the NT's


You support fascism. If a fascist party ever came to power again, you'd be one of the first groups they'd look to get rid of. Fascists hate any sign of difference or creativity of thought. Everyone must think the same, act the same, be the same. No-one can be different. Anyone that is, gets severely punished or their family attacked or ends up murdered. That's what fascism is.

It means that if you don't agree with someone, they will kill you because they hate your beliefs and want power over people.


I know what Fascsim is thank you for telling me something that I already know fascsits would use the aspies because of their loyality at least that's how it happens in a book I am writing but we don't have to worry about a fascist state coming back into power the only real threat to liberty today is Islamic Fascism which is down right scary.



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14 Apr 2012, 2:23 pm

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I know what Fascsim is thank you for telling me something that I already know fascsits would use the aspies because of their loyality


No, they'd see us as subhuman. Just like the drinkers, smokers, fatties, gays and anyone else who was disliked at the time.



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14 Apr 2012, 2:25 pm

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I know what Fascsim is thank you for telling me something that I already know fascsits would use the aspies because of their loyality


No, they'd see us as subhuman. Just like the drinkers, smokers, fatties, gays and anyone else who was disliked at the time.


Did you not read the whole post I cleary tried to end the aruegment yet you still want to press the issue forward.



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14 Apr 2012, 4:52 pm

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Compared to the alternative, they certainly do.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That's easy to say, but I'm not so sure it's true.


The alternative political party (Republicans) consider my family and me as parasites, and generally inferior to those with wealth. Artsy bohemian bums like my wife and I are none too popular with them. And they certainly feel no obligation for providing special education for my little girl, as they figure she has to pull herself up by her own bootstraps. And my Dad had been a staunch union man who was able to provide my Mom and me with a comfortable middle class living - which the Republicans figured was somehow bad. So I'm actually pretty sure I have chosen well.

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14 Apr 2012, 8:25 pm

Well, I'm a student and the two Canadian parties which probably offer the most support for students would be the New Democratic Party (our Socialist International member) and the Greens. I'm planning to go into research and I think the Greens are the ones who want to make the biggest increases in research funding, including grants for undergrads and grad students. Like all Canadians I benefit from Universal Healthcare. once again, the two parties that are the biggest defenders of that are the NDP and the Greens. But the Greens believe in taking a serious look at the healthcare system (while keeping it public and universal) rather than simply throwing more money at it, and I suspect that that is the better way to go. In the most general sense, the Green Party has by far the best platform to look out for the long term health of our economy and planet (despite having a few technophobic trouble-spots).



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16 Apr 2012, 11:20 am

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Compared to the alternative, they certainly do.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That's easy to say, but I'm not so sure it's true.


The alternative political party (Republicans) consider my family and me as parasites, and generally inferior to those with wealth. Artsy bohemian bums like my wife and I are none too popular with them. And they certainly feel no obligation for providing special education for my little girl, as they figure she has to pull herself up by her own bootstraps. And my Dad had been a staunch union man who was able to provide my Mom and me with a comfortable middle class living - which the Republicans figured was somehow bad. So I'm actually pretty sure I have chosen well.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.


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16 Apr 2012, 11:22 am

But it's nice to hear that some people do actually benefit from the party's support in their individual lives.

I mean other than merely agreeing with you. :roll:


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16 Apr 2012, 11:31 am

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That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.



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16 Apr 2012, 11:39 am

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That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.


The union company that I worked for did have people that really did benefit from the unions, but it is a different generation that benefited than the new one. The benefits have eroded away. I guess they have for sometime, more for others, as my father worked many union jobs. Note "many".


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16 Apr 2012, 11:48 am

AstroGeek wrote:
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That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.


Look up Fordism.

Higher wages benefit EVERYONE in the LONG TERM. The problem is, American businessmen increasingly look no further than the next stock optioning...

American business has been eating itself for some time.


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16 Apr 2012, 1:11 pm

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AstroGeek wrote:
snapcap wrote:
That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.


Look up Fordism.

Higher wages benefit EVERYONE in the LONG TERM. The problem is, American businessmen increasingly look no further than the next stock optioning...

American business has been eating itself for some time.


Absolutely true.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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16 Apr 2012, 5:29 pm

snapcap wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
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That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.


The union company that I worked for did have people that really did benefit from the unions, but it is a different generation that benefited than the new one. The benefits have eroded away. I guess they have for sometime, more for others, as my father worked many union jobs. Note "many".

Some of the reason they've stopped working so well is because:
a) Our society is increasingly dominated by the finance and service sectors sectors, which for some reason are harder to unionise. As such unions have lost some of their relevance and their support among the genera public (because fewer people are members).
b) Many of unions' collective bargaining rights were taken away during the Reagan-Thatcher years, weakening them considerably.



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16 Apr 2012, 5:49 pm

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AstroGeek wrote:
snapcap wrote:
That seems like an experience you should hear about when the benefits of unions are discussed, but I don't think that's a common experience, from everything I've been told and been through myself.

I think your story is a becoming a small slice of the union experience, especially if you're in the States.

My impression as an outsider has been, in Canada at least, that unions tend to benefit the members despite the internal beurocracy and occasional bout of stupidity. It is the business owners and the government that are the ones who do not benefit because they have to pay higher wages etc.


Look up Fordism.

Higher wages benefit EVERYONE in the LONG TERM. The problem is, American businessmen increasingly look no further than the next stock optioning...

American business has been eating itself for some time.


I always found it ironic that the nazis where racist yet pro life and against abortion and payed women to have as many kids as they could and killed women trying to get a abortion hmm they where very conflicting and the biggest threat the world had ever faced when Hitler was in power he also put sex offenders rapists ect in the holocaust hmm very strange indeed.



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16 Apr 2012, 5:56 pm

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I always found it ironic that the nazis where racist yet pro life and against abortion and payed women to have as many kids as they could and killed women trying to get a abortion hmm they where very conflicting and the biggest threat the world had ever faced when Hitler was in power he also put sex offenders rapists ect in the holocaust hmm very strange indeed.


Forced abortions and forced sterilisations were often carried out in Nazi Germany upon women from sections of society that were considered 'undesirable'.



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16 Apr 2012, 6:09 pm

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I always found it ironic that the nazis where racist yet pro life and against abortion and payed women to have as many kids as they could and killed women trying to get a abortion hmm they where very conflicting and the biggest threat the world had ever faced when Hitler was in power he also put sex offenders rapists ect in the holocaust hmm very strange indeed.


Forced abortions and forced sterilisations were often carried out in Nazi Germany upon women from sections of society that were considered 'undesirable'.


Oh yes that is true I was speaking of the German women of course they would make since in a fasicst state wead out the week so you can make your own society in your twisted standards of perfection.

I agree with fascist on how the military and economy is to be run how ever everything else nope sorry I do not support any of it.