Is psychiatry an exact science

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Then why should anyone pay attention to any of that nonsense you mention?

No it is absolutely not an exact science. I would argue that it is not even science. It is more like a cross between statistical analysis and hearsay.

Meaning: the "doctor" listens to what a patient tells them, then compares these reports to what has been recorded before from other patients. Then the "doctor" places the patient into the best fitting box they can.

To me there are two issues here as to why it cannot be science.

1 - It is subjective. The "doctor" relies on what the patient is telling them. So presuming the patient is not on top form, this in itself makes what they say unreliable. (no offense to the patient)

2 - The "doctor" then goes and compares what they have heard from historical data collected using the same technique I describe in issue 1.

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The thing I hate most about modern psychology is the belief that sex is the ultimate motivation behind all human behavior.

The human mind just craves excitement and sex is just one form of excitement.

My male friends bring me more excitement than any women ever has or ever will.

Sexual selection is a significant part of evolution, so it is unsurprising that sex would be a predominant concern in human behaviour.

Yeah, but Freudian stuff has some bizarre sexual concepts that even go against evolution, such as children always desiring sex with mother/father.

That said, I think (hope) that Freudianism isn't a major part of psychology, nowadays.

Hmm.

A logical person would suggest that absence of a body does not a deity make.

Your bible was scribed by the hands of men, not by a god. This is indicated by the use of the phrase 'gospel, which translates as 'stuff what I made up about Jesus'.

Too, the original 'stuff what was made up about Jesus' has been translated, edited and re-translated many hundreds of times.

Creationists have the audacity to claim their holy book is literally true, and then edit the book. This seems presumptious at the very least.

Yes. They typically drill in your head for a brain-tissue sample when you're not looking, break it down into chemical components, and have a lab analyze it on a gram scale with a six decimal tolerance to concoct the perfect pill to match your chemistry.

Pshycology is based on Freud, without him there would be none of it. His idea of mother/father sexual thoughts in sons/daughters simply implies that the growing child attaches some sexuality to his/her parents. It does not go against evolution, it is just a young enquiring mind going through phases of sexual development.

there is also plenty of freuds work that was literally insane and had nothing to do with reality,

put simply he overanalyzed everything and chances are what determined what actually works and doesnt in the end.

there are also others that did similar work in the same period, freud wasnt neccesary and he isnt today.

Oh Doktor Fruede, Herr Doktor Freude
how we wish you had been differently employed
instead of fiddling with neurosis
you could have cured sclerosis
Oh what a waste, Herr Doktor Freude!

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That's like saying Charles Darwin wasn't necessary for Biology and isn't today.

that is true, to an extent.

he did popularize psychotherapy and created a framework that people could work from, same as darwin did for evolutioon(who was far from alone in his theories at his time and before as well, which is also why you find people that in biology hold similar acclaim to darwin)

where the similarities end is the point where while darwins original theory had several flaws it was fairly open ended and general, freuds theories are often specific to the point of obscurity.
he actively imposed several distinct states on the human mind where none exist and he often argued from very very few actual cases, for some entire sections of his theories there is a single case study.
many also arent falsifiable and as such dont even qualify as a theory, one of his patients suffered through badly administered psychotherapy for 60 years.

i agree there are similar external circumstances but what they actually did sets them apart.

No its not exact science, but I don't think disorders are just made up. They usually do refer to actual issues people have that are more psychological than physical though mental disorders can cause physical symptoms at least some of them.

Inbreeding is genetically disadvantageous, which is most likely why animals and people tend to avoid it.  Thus, incestuous thoughts go against evolutionary pressures.

If it's about attachment, then call it attachment, not "wanting to f*** your mother or father."

Since Freud there have been many other people, theories and methods in psychology:  Jung, CBT, pastoral Counselling, dialectical behavior therapy, EMDR, and on and on.  The Wright brothers' aren't very relevant to aircraft design these days.  

Now let us get this straight. If a person divorces his wife in Arkansas...do this mean they are no longer first cousins? Some of this stuff is hard to grasp.