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19 Dec 2012, 1:17 am

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I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

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19 Dec 2012, 1:24 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Anti-gunners are just as creepy and obsessive. That is what you do in "war."



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19 Dec 2012, 2:18 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It worked. The NRA knew most of the overall legal strategy the Brady center gave DC for the Heller case. Some exact details would have been privileged information between city officials and it's lawyers.


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19 Dec 2012, 2:26 am

John_Browning wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It worked. The NRA knew most of the overall legal strategy the Brady center gave DC for the Heller case. Some exact details would have been privileged information between city officials and it's lawyers.


Doesn't exactly sound ethical, either.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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19 Dec 2012, 2:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It worked. The NRA knew most of the overall legal strategy the Brady center gave DC for the Heller case. Some exact details would have been privileged information between city officials and it's lawyers.

That just means the 2A is playing by similar rules now. All the 2A lobby has to do now is make up whatever facts and figures they want when they want it and it will be an even playing field!

Doesn't exactly sound ethical, either.

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19 Dec 2012, 2:34 am

John_Browning wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
PM wrote:
I think the NRA just made a powerful statement by simply disappearing.

To elaborate, no one will remember the calls for GUN CONTROL NOW!, but rather that the NRA disappeared for a few days then exploded back onto center stage out of nowhere.

They have probably studied and planned how to handle a Port Arthur scenario for a long time now. They have studies the leading gun control lobbyists worldwide, and Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters once met and had a face-to-face debate. Also, the NRA knows the profiles and personal lives of the directors and lawyers, as well as the inner workings of the Brady center very well since Charlton Heston had the foresight to plant a professional industrial spy there that worked her way to the top of the organization. She was discovered just as SCOTUS was ready to begin the arguments in the Heller case.


That sounds creepy and obsessive.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

It worked. The NRA knew most of the overall legal strategy the Brady center gave DC for the Heller case. Some exact details would have been privileged information between city officials and it's lawyers.

That just means the 2A is playing by similar rules now. All the 2A lobby has to do now is make up whatever facts and figures they want when they want it and it will be an even playing field!

Doesn't exactly sound ethical, either.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


What's a 2A?

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19 Dec 2012, 2:52 am

2nd Amendment.


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19 Dec 2012, 3:29 am

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2nd Amendment.


Okay, I'm sleepy right now, so stuff is getting past me.

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19 Dec 2012, 2:21 pm

The NRA just broke their silence yesterday, and according to the news, will have a press conference today. They left a message saying everyone should work together to make sure that a tragedy never happened again.


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19 Dec 2012, 3:00 pm

:roll:

We have more than 11,000 firearm homicides per year.

One day, a bunch of upper-class white kids get shot, and suddenly even the NRA says "everyone should work together to make sure that a tragedy never happened again."



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19 Dec 2012, 3:13 pm

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:roll:

We have more than 11,000 firearm homicides per year.

One day, a bunch of upper-class white kids get shot, and suddenly even the NRA says "everyone should work together to make sure that a tragedy never happened again."


Sad commentary on how the lives of poor and minority children are in reality considered to be of less worth.

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19 Dec 2012, 3:19 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
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We have more than 11,000 firearm homicides per year.

One day, a bunch of upper-class white kids get shot, and suddenly even the NRA says "everyone should work together to make sure that a tragedy never happened again."


More than 400,000 Tobacco related deaths per year, and 35,000 fatal car accidents per year.

FYI, the NRA is not exclusive to WASPs.


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19 Dec 2012, 5:01 pm

The NRA is too inclusive of an organization to be honest, they'll give candidates high marks for insincere positions. Pandering to your constituency like Joe Manchin and Mark Warner. They should be a much higher threshold.